The first observation is that genes are actually stored in two locations.
This threw me off at first. It read like active genes have a backup stored somewhere in the inactive part. That is not the case =). We're not having and L1/2/3 cache in our genome.
I think there's a good explanation why it doesn't work both ways (one being acceptable, and the other not).
Women gained the right to vote as late as 1920 in the USA, and were seen as worth less than man for god knows how many years. That sort of leaves a mark.. and makes jokes about it a more sensitive issue than the other way around.
And I've heard and made plenty of jokes about women, but not so much the other way around. Might be because I'm a boy, and spend quite some time in a fraternity.
What I quoted is the response of a girl present at that conference. I just remembered that something like this hit the blogs a few months ago and googled for it.
Khasim was asking for examples. This is one where a girl was offended by it. Doesn't say anything about inherently offending all women.
I think a white person would be seen as a poor coder being whipped forward by the management
The difference is that white people didn't recently go through mass slavery or suppression. That context to me makes a white man a joke and the black man not.
Slavery ended in the 1860's in the USA. Woman gained voting rights as late as 1920. While slavery is far worse than not being allowed to vote, both are a quite extreme expression of inequality.
Not particularly disturbing. But I think that the current sensitivity to one thing or another isn't an objective reflection of how wrong something is.
Your statement just reminded me of an old joke about women, which touches upon slavery as well.
"What's wrong when you wife comes out of the kitchen and starts nagging you? You made the chain too long."
Noone in this thread is collecting all instances of sexism on the internet.
A lot of people are quoting the latest, most exposed cases of sexism, which sort of seems the logical thing to do. Why quote an obscure case from 1996?
Its' not about porn vs slavery, which would be a poor comparison indeed.
It is about putting offending pictures to a particular group of people in your presentation, and I picked a stronger example on purpose to try (and fail to) show Khasim that frequency of nasty comments in a mailinglist isn't all that matters.
Why do I need to be 'there', in order to name an example of sexism. Doesn't seem to be a requirement.
Why do I fail whenever I (or several others in the thread) try to explain that your defense in numbers of non-sexist posts is irrelevant.
You show all the signs of a troll.
Good point. Either would probably make me uncomfortable. And I'm male
I tried to transpose the sexism to racism, as I thought that people would find it easier to pick up racism than sexism.
Lets' repeat ObsessiveMathsFreak answer again. If I don't shoot you a thousand times, and then shoot you, there is no problem?
You asked for examples, someone got you 4 examples 5 minutes after you asked, and you immediately discard that as 'not enough examples'. That doesn't bode well for any kind of rational discussion.
To answer your last sentence: Lets' rephrase (again) it to this and see if it rings some bells:
" So, if only 1.% of the developers are negroid
Imagine that rather than having a naked chick every so many slides (as happened in a talk @ GoCaRuCo), you would have a picture of a negroid in chains animation pulling in the next slide of the presentation. Add a whip to the scene and it would make even a mostly white audience severely uncomfortable.
I think we're just far more sensitive to racism than to sexism, which makes it a bit harder to pick up acts of sexism.
Trying to figure out what you mean with that last sentence.. If I just translate it to another setting:
" So, if only 1.% of the developers are negroid
Imagine that rather than having a naked chick every so many slides (as happened in a talk @ GoCaRuCo), you would have a picture of a negroid in chains animation pulling in the next slide of the presentation. Add a whip to the scene and it would make even a mostly white audience severely uncomfortable.
I think we're just far more sensitive to racism than to sexism, which makes it a bit harder to pick up acts of sexism.
There was an example on a ruby conference earlier this year: http://dyepot-teapot.com/2009/04/25/dear-fellow-rubyists/
“If he had left it at a few introductory jokes, I would be writing a very different post. Instead the porn references continued with images of scantily-clad women gratuitously splashed across technical diagrams and intro slides. As he got into code snippets, he inserted interstitial images every few slides.
Make sure your code does nothing gracefully.
