It is funny how you guys still can't understand that the housing bubble was a direct result of liberal Democrat policy. The recession would have happened even if Gore won the 2000 and 2004 elections. But if that had been the case, you would find some way to blame it on those 'evil Republicans'.

As for 'the recovery', what recovery? Pumping billions into Wall Street to keep the economy limping isn't a recovery.

Thankfully, I can honestly state I didn't vote for McCain or Romney. I voted for Obama in 2008, and Green Party in 2012. But who I vote for doesn't blind me to reality.

You called?

If that car didn't have the optional pedestrian-detection feature, do you really think it had the optional positronic brain?

No, if there had been a Maximum Overdrive button, the car would have pushed it itself.

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5 per year, worldwide.

Relax Mr. Ballmer. It was a joke.

Please put the chair back down.

Divorce her and get a 13-year-old bride. They love cleaning the house.

They have filters?

More than one guy in that video was an idiot.

Again, you are describing 'mating rituals' and 'life-long pairing of mates'. Neither of those is a marriage. Animals that mate and pair for life don't go through a ceremony first, wherein other animals acknowledge and accept that pairing, with a justice-of-the-flock giving its blessing.

You're so funny. I love the way you pretend you can't comprehend details of what people write.

I can't wait to see more of your work. It's a hoot.

That wasn't ledow's argument though. He stated "Marriage pre-dates religion."

For that to be true, it would require a legal framework (since marriage has to come from some authority higher than the couple getting married) that came into existence among a group of people, before that same group started to have religious or spiritual beliefs. And since it seems all groups developed religious or spiritual beliefs very early, his argument would require the date of creation of a purely civil government to be pushed back thousands of years.

Maybe ledow interprets 'marriage' as two people mating, or even forming a life-long bond, without any authority sanctioning it. But that isn't marriage, by any definition in common use.

Please don't give them any ideas.

And before Judaism started, people believed in gods.

I'm finding it hard to believe that there was a legal structure developed 5,000 years ago that included marriage, yet that was completely separate from any religious or spiritual basis. Not just separate, but not even evolved from a religious or spiritual basis.

If any such legal system existed in the time before Judaism, or in any of the surrounding concurrent cultures, I'm sure there are academic sources outlining them.

Let me point out, I think that government should be out of marriage completely, since it is a personal issue. Two people don't declare their undying love because the government allows it. But declaring their undying love shouldn't change any legal status they have. What does a declaration of undying love have to do with anything in secular law?

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You think vi and emacs are only 20 years old?

Noob. :^)