Yes! I never said he was a capitalist, or that anything in the Bible would support capitalism. => So yeah.. What Would Jesus Do? Impose communist bullshit and make half the world starve... or embrace capitalism
If the nits that you wish to pick are that you said he WOULD embrace capitalism rather than he IS a capitalist, then you're arguing semantics that don't exist. This whole discussion has become pointless.
In that first post, you in fact DID claim that his support for an economic system existed and was supported by text in the Bible.
No, I didn't. This is a lie. Or perhaps I'm assuming too much and you are simply failing at logical reasoning. You seem to think that my argument against your position is an explicit advancement of what you see as your negative position. Therefore, if I'm arguing against your claim that Jesus would embrace capitalism, I'm obviously saying that Jesus was a communist or at least made clear his support for some other economic system. This is a fallacy.
You did not name the economic system in your claim, though the implication was that he was anti-capitalist
Ahh, and here we are again. If I say I don't believe in the Christian God nor their religious dogma, does that automatically make me an atheist? Does it make me a Muslim? Can you use my statement to show I support any particular religion? Of course not. I claimed that Jesus's words, as reflected in the Christian Bible, do not show him as a capitalist. Simple. The first half of your latest post is wasted; you're trying to build a strawman.
When called on it, you attempted to produce quotes that support your claim, but they did not. Your quotes did not speak to ANY economic system and did not answer my question of Jesus's theoretical modern support of capitalism vs communism in the slightest.
Because the only way to know which economic system Jesus would be more likely to support is if he explicitly expounded upon the pros and cons of the various options? And if that is your position, how the hell did you decide that he would embrace capitalism? In your simplistic view, capitalism is good and communism is bad; Jesus was a good guy; therefore, Jesus would embrace capitalism and shun communism. End of story.
You are the one who took the conversation to the actual text of the Bible and what Jesus supposedly said about capitalism...
So yeah.. What Would Jesus Do? Impose communist bullshit and make half the world starve... or embrace capitalism.. You're claiming those aren't your words? Or, do you mean that I challenged your comment so that makes me responsible for the conversation? Interesting view either way.
...which turned out to be totally unfounded, because the quotes had nothing to do with capitalism or any other economic system, as I suspected initially.
Your responses made obvious that a letter addressed to you, from Jesus, clearly laying out his objections to capitalism, would have been waved away as insufficient. Seriously, I wasted very little time on that part of the conversation because it was clear you had no interest in reasonable discussion.
Do you know what defines socialism...I agree with you that Denmark is one of the "most socialist nations today." That is beyond dispute. Where we disagree is that Denmark is A SOCIALIST NATION.
Again, your simplistic black and white outlook makes discussion impossible. I never said that Denmark is A SOCIALIST NATION. As I've said in previous posts, there are no pure capitalist nor socialist nations - they don't exist. Every real world economy is a mix. You agree that Denmark is as close to the EVIL SOCIALISM end of the scale as any country today, yet hold them up as a capitalist success.
They tend towards socialism but are rather more capitalist than socialist. All successful countries today are basically capitalist, with a bit of socialism.
You argue that capitalism is better than socialism. Your example for capitalism is, perhaps, the most socialized nation in the world today. Your position is not supported by your example. In fact, it is directly undermined. Other, more capitalist, nations do a poorer job of providing safety nets. They produce lower standards of living while requiring their citizens to work more hours. Their citizens score lower on surveys of happiness and health. But none of that counts to you because as long as there is a touch of capitalism in the system, it still counts as capitalism. This logical disconnect makes discussion impossible.
Anything that doesn't fit your worldview is either ignored or reinterpreted appropriately. I feel like I'm talking to a cult member.