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Comment Re:Let it happen (Score 2) 341

Just use the satellite data, which can't be fiddled with.

There is far more "fiddling" done just to produce the satellite temperature data than there is to produce the surface temperature data. In the first place satellites don't measure temperature directly. Instead they measure the microwave emissions of oxygen molecules which serve as a proxy for temperatures in blobs of the atmosphere above the surface. They have to be adjusted for things like orbital decay, estimated sensor drift, changes in the time of observation and to account for things like clouds and high elevations (the Himalayas). Only then can they derive a temperature from the satellites.

Comment Re: Let it happen (Score 1) 341

Also the "average" temperature is not something that can be directly observed.

That may be true in the sense that you can't instantaneously measure the temperature of every square Planck length of area on the surface of the Earth. But by choosing a representative sample of stations around the world and consistently deriving an average temperature you can get an idea of how temperature is changing over time which is what we really care about.

Comment Re: Extinction event (Score 1) 341

Look around yourself. I don't know about you, but I can't say that losing this failed system we call civilization sounds more like a chance for a reboot than anything else.

Maybe so but that reboot process is going to take a while and be unpleasant for everybody (except maybe masochists). It might also mean a significant drop in world population.

Comment Re:Inquisition (Score 1) 394

Well, first of all "climate change" is a far older term than "global warming". Gilbert Plass published a paper titled "The Carbon Dioxide Theory of Climate Change" in 1958. The terms are used interchangeably.

The rest of your post is just hyperbolic.

I imagine you're giggling a lot more about the fact that atmospheric CO2 levels are a major factor in Earth's climate than I am about penicillin.

Comment Re:Equal Treatment (Score 1) 394

The whole issue with Soon was not that he was funded by a fossil fuel company but that he failed to disclose that he was funded by a fossil fuel company. In most cases a study funded by a government grant is required to disclose the source of the funding in published papers and it's good scientific ethics to disclose any potential conflicts of interest.

Comment Re:Honest politicians (Score 1) 394

Studies funded by the National Science Foundation, a major source of the funding you're talking about, explicitly require that you note the grant number in your published papers. From that you should have no problem auditing where the money went.

More money may be spent in climate research but how much of that goes into designing, building, launching and downloading data from satellites? How much of it goes into supercomputers and other hardware? How much goes in to funding expeditions to remote sites? Very little gets spent on that sort of thing by the other side.

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