I am just using the only data and evidence that I have available to me; mainly my own knowledge and experience. Admittedly I have only my have one sample point, and I hope that all the rest of the data is good ,as everyone is putting blind faith into it (although there is no reason to believe it is unless I want to believe that weather scientist are omniscient god like entities who never submit to societal pressure). However I don't have access to the rest of the data, and apparently it is proprietary information. So given the fact that I do not access to this proprietary data, and the only data that I do have is false, I have two choices. I can believe what ever the media is saying, or I can use my own common sense and the very limited data I do have. I have to look outside the window, and ask myself if the weather is going haywire. No. Is it likely that the climate of the planet is changing. Yes. Has it changed in the past. Yes. Would it be great to have a warmer climate, and have dinosaurs running around and shit like they did in the past. Yes. Does it make sense to throw all humanity's efforts into combating this weather change, that might in the end be inevitable? No.

Rather that snipping at each other and making snide character comments it would be better if humanity could work together to try to get off the planet. Rather than worrying about what impact humans have on the climate, climate scientist could be looking into Terra-forming Mars. The only way to eliminate the affect that humans have on the planet, would be to eliminate all the humans. Ohh wait, I forgot only conservative people affect the climate. OK, so just kill all the conservatives, and I a sure the planet will be happy.

-Regards freedom loving libertarian.

Wait. I am trying to use logic and reason. The OP said that as a conservative I am naturally disadvantaged in this regard, but I will try nevertheless. If banning guns won't prevent murders, and will in fact just prevent the good people from defending themselves against the gun crazed lunatics, what is the purpose of banning guns.

I have first hand experience with fudging numbers. In the coast guard, we were required to submit a weather report to NOAA every 4 hours called synoptic weather. There were 2 of us on the cutter that took the job seriously. Everyone else I knew pretty much just made up numbers, because it was time consuming, and made it difficult to do some of the other BS that watch standers were supposed to be doing. I can't help but think that a lot of this garbage data made it into the hands of 'scientist' who were trying to model weather. I just hope scientists are looking at the accuracy of the data that is being submitted to them, and make appropriate allowances. But I doubt it. I know I would not feel comfortable making policy decisions based on the data we gave them. But everyone on slashdot seems to think that the word of scientist is the word of God almighty himself, rather than actually taking the time to look at the situation critically.

Just my 2 pennies.

I don't know what the 'scientist' are worried about. Thanks to the 'liberals' there are no hand guns hand guns are illegal in Australia, and therefore it is impossible for anyone to carry out one of these threats.

-Sincerely a freedom loving conservative.

UA lost my luggage on a trip to the Philippines. I lost all my dive gear that I was planning on using in Cebu. After spending hours on the phone to a call center in India, I was still not able to get my luggage. I am shit out of luck. Still haven't been reimbursed three years latter. This is entirely OT, but I just though I would get it off my chest.

Fucking faggot. Real men use Ed.

Obligatory joke for fagots who have not read it yet

that there is nobody left that can take the news seriously. I can be better informed watching sponge Bob Square Pants for .5 hours that I can watching the local news. The one shining light in the sea of trash journalism is the PBS TV News. Not the Radio, the radio program is just as biased and uninformative as Fox or CNN.

Actually the PBS TV programs are a real breath of fresh air. No fancy graphics. Just professionals talking about the news. It is kind of like the rest of the news outlets used to be 20-30 years ago. I can actually watch the program and not think everyone on the program is retarded.

The Major new outlets say they just cater to what the public is buying. Well, I guess they are not buying it anymore. Even if the argument was valid, it would kind of be like one of those faggety ass drug dealers saying, 'well i am just selling what the public wants'.

-The owner of this post is a fagot

-Nancy Grace.

What about 'International' did you not understand?

Fuck yea. It is about time someone had some common sense. Where I live, I can smoke a cigarette while pumping gas at the gas station, while the passengers drink from cans of open beer in the back seat. Yes sure this is freedom, but I want to know what happens if the laws of physics suddenly stop working. I mean what happens if the flash point of gasoline spontaneously lowers to that of a lit cigarette, and the gas station goes up in a giant explosion. It happens on TV all the time. Clearly the freedom I enjoy isn't worth the potential death due to an explosion if the laws of physics suddenly change.

Also I demand people stop being born until liberals and Government can perfect a way for people to live a life of perfect safety, harmony and never die. The risk from death (near certainty) is not worth the slight enjoyment one might receive from actually living for some short period. (say 60 years). It is about time government stepped in and made some laws to keep me from dieing.

This is exactly what beleaguered trial lawyers, hit hard by the recession need. In the past lawyers had to make due with suing major corporations and state entities for acts of human stupidity. Now they can friggin sue God. How great is that? Think of all the innocent flood victims who finally can be re-compensated for their deaths. Think of all the victims of cancer, who can finally be made right for having been given a compromised immune system. Yes sireee, this is the best think since lawn gnomes.

-The writer of the post is a fagot, and doesn't know who to spel.

-American Trial Lawyer association.

Thank You! You are great. Now I know. Ivy is better that Ivory, which probably better than gold.

-Thanks
-Now I am going to catch some gators

WoW! I never realized people like you existed. You are perfect. Everyone who disagrees with you is a Moron. If only more people thought exactly like you we could solve the world's problems. Yes, everyone associated with Sarah Palin really is a complete fricking moron who can barely put on a pair of non matching shoes, let alone type. Yes, editing wikipedia is an extremely hard task, that only the most enlightened liberals such as yourself are able to carry out. I am guessing from your rightfully condensending tone that you are a graduate of some Ivory league university someplace in the Northeast. (if not it is Harvard's loss).

You pretty much have the world figured out. Are you going to be writing any books explaining your philosophy for the benefit of people-kind (don't want to be sexist) anytime soon. I hope so, and can't wait to get my copy.

Are tyrants and warlords really worse than the current situation? At least with warlords there is a meritocracy of sorts. (The strongest are in charge). In the current situation the most duplicitous make the laws for their own benefit, while enriching their pockets, and claiming to serve society. The most conniving are the alpha dogs. Give me a meritocracy based on steel and might any day over a meritocracy based on duplicity and lies.

I would rather have an outcome based on an old fashioned gun battle, than being decided by a team of overpriced lawyers hired to stretch the truth beyond recognition to a jury. At least with a gun fight you are not lying to yourself and saying your cause has any moral high ground. This is what the current legal / governmental climate in the USA, has led me to believe.

-When the laws become criminal, only criminals obey the laws.

Actually having the name of el-Masri is a crime. The authoraties make the laws, they make the crimes. If the man with the gun says you committed a crime, you committed a crime.

I consider our current system to be a defacto socialized medical system, because unlike in capitalism, the patient is not the customer, The HMO is. Also like a 'true socialized' system, a patient is guaranteed some right to medical care through the emergency rooms and free clinics regardless of her or his ability to pay. Obviously your medical care will probably be better if you have the means to pay, but isn't that always the case? At any rate it really is just a matter of semantics, and is not worth arguing about.

A few years ago as a member of the military, I was in a real honest to goodness actual Socialized medical system. In some cases the system worked as you described. In those instances (actually instance), I received much better care that I would have received in the market system. The PA who was unencumbered by costs, and could give me the time and care that I needed. However, the majority of the time, it sucked. You had to show up at the clinic during specific hours (sick call) or you would not be seen. You had wait to see a specialist, etc. I would have been better off with an HMO, or just going to the emergency room, as much as I hate to admit it.

If socialized medicine works, why are there so many horror stories about medical care in the UK. Admittedly sometimes socialism does work as you describe, but there seems to be a lot of problems (wait lists, etc) I just feel the U.S. should fix the current system without going to a fully socialized system. I mean didn't we fight a cold war against the communists. 8-). We are taking a step backwards.

I could not agree with you more. Rather than going to a fully socialized system, we are buying into a system where the state is guaranteeing funds to a corporation who's only motivation is to maximize profit. I see a disaster coming.