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Comment Re:"Outrage" WTF? (Score 1) 768

So, it's just a matter of magnitude. Big corporations doing what is legal is bad because of the amount involved. Do you have any idea how much taxes Google actually pays? The figure was worldwide taxes avoided. Do you think Google should pay taxes to repressive regimes, for instance? Do you think taxes worldwide are always fair? The "outrage" is manufactured but the actual data is lacking.

Comment "Outrage" WTF? (Score 2) 768

This is a very, very bogus report. "Outrage"? Come on! Is it legal? Yes. Is there some kind of "moral requirement" that we all maximize the taxes we have to pay or suffer "outrage"? Don't we all look for all the deductions we can legally get away with? WTF is all the bogus "outrage" at perfectly normal, legal behavior?

Comment Re:Privacy has nothing to do with it (Score 1) 277

Here's a tip for you: once you start discussing the opponents tone instead of his arguments, you've given up all semblance of debate.

LOL! God! I do love a fool! Let's address your "arguments", shall we?

Wow, an idiot who...

That's compelling! I never considered that.

Do you have to work at being that dumb, or are you just twelve?

I'm convinced. Your "arguments" are completely convincing. You win!

Comment Re:How about (Score 1) 381

Yeah....Still not for me.

I would not choose to live in an environment which required absolute, strict compliance with every law, every regulation, every statute all the time by every single person, no exceptions, no leeway, no excuses. But that's just me.

Comment Re:How about (Score 1) 381

Ooog! While I understand your point and I can sympathize with your annoyance, I would truly hate to live in such a world. It isn't the constant fines that would bother me, it would be the constant surveillance and the onerous bureaucracy that would make me flee. It really would be "1984" come to life. If the government had that kind of power, it would abuse it for all it's worth.

Comment Re:Privacy has nothing to do with it (Score 1) 277

I'll take this as an admission that you cannot provide any citation to back up your claims.

Back at you. LOL!

You can cherry-pick all the "examples" you want but you are avoiding the broad picture.

How would this "Right" to be forgotten work? Who has to spend the time and money to search everywhere for "your" data? Are you going to? Or do you expect someone to do all that for you? In many cases the original posting was by the person who now wants it removed, so who is responsible for tracking down all the places it might have gone?

Who does all that work? What do they look for, your name? If so, how do they know which "Bob Jones" is you? What bits of information about "you" are they supposed to "erase"? The data exists all over the place and all Facebook, Google, et. al. can do is delete the link. Oops! The data you found so embarrassing is still there somewhere but now it's harder for you to locate to get it removed.

Do you expect some vague "government agency" to patrol all the Internet and tell all those sites what to "erase"? When has any government agency been that effective, or do you believe in magic?

Even if the "right" to be forgotten was a good idea, which I don't agree with, what magical incantation would make your embarrassing information "disappear"? It. Isn't. Possible.

That is one thing we have all learned about the Internet. Information does not disappear. I know you wish it were otherwise -- a lot of people do, but that's just the way it is. Passing a law that mandates something that is impossible to do is the epitome of stupid. You simply cannot make the Internet completely remove data. You know this because you alluded to it, so why do you think this law will do anything but require various companies waste tons of time and money attempting to do the impossible?

That's the broad picture that you are ignoring.

Comment Re:Translation: FB wants to sell your data (Score 1) 277

So, in other words, you agree with my translation, not the deliberately muddy way that FB communicates with people.

However, let us be crystal, EU citizens do have rights that override corporate desires, and the Right to be Forgotten used to be one of the hallmarks of America, not Europe.

It is a shame how far we have fallen from our former glory here in the US.

I was not disagreeing with you.

However, the stupid "Right to be Forgotten" was never a hallmark of the United States. The right to privacy certainly might be considered that, but that really isn't the same thing.

Comment Re:Translation: FB wants to sell your data (Score 1) 277

They don't need any "excuse". That's their business model. They provide all sorts of free services that their users like and in exchange their users have agreed to Facebook using all their data.

I get a kick out of people, using Facebook for free, complaining and complaining about how Facebook uses their data in ways that they agreed to.

Comedy is plentiful these days.

Comment Re:Privacy has nothing to do with it (Score 1) 277

Been there, done that. Your neighbor who posts the fact that you are out of town for three weeks is a very good, and quite realistic, example of when such a need exists. There was no "spying" involved, no legal prohibition against such a posting.

If you think something like that wouldn't happen, I can tell you for a fact that it does. Not facebook specifically, but a personal example. I told someone who actually had a need to know that I was going to be out of town for a week, who should have known that such information was not for public dissemination, and it was not ten minutes later that this fact was being transmitted over the radio to a large group of people. Are you arguing that there is some law that I could apply to this situation and have this person arrested and put in jail?

Obviously not. Like I said there are no laws, no "rights", no rules that will protect you from stupidity -- not even this stupid "right" to be forgotten. Sorry, no help for you when it comes to stupidity. Deal with it.

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