I agree that blame doesn't lay with the schools.

Your counterpoint (if girls think this way then why don't boys) is so obvious that I'm surprised I hadn't considered it before.

I guess, well---when I was in high school, I was a socially-inept nerd who liked science-fiction and computer games. So, in my case, no, this perception of the field wouldn't have been any deterrent, as the dream of being popular had been fully crushed by the reality of American high-school education. :)

So maybe the real question, why aren't more high-school girls into... uh... whatever passes for star wars, chess club, dungeons and dragons, etc., these days. Maybe the answer to that question is the root cause we're looking for.

I wonder to what degree (if any) the cause might be related to the female perception of the males that inhabit the field.

In much of popular culture, the programmer seems to be that socially-inept, overweight nerd who lives in his parents' basement, covered in cheeto-dust, drinking mountain dew and playing computer games all day.

Should we be surprised if high-school- and college-aged girls, who presumably want to be popular and accepted by their peers, are not, on the average, eager to be associated with a profession/calling that is perceived in this way?

You clearly aren't married.

We're still measuring performance in GHz? But... but... oh fuck it.

Emacs and firefox together do an awful lot of this:
  - Emacs is hard to beat for Lisp development
  - Emacs (and Lisp's REPL, for that matter) are good calculators
  - Emacs shell mode is wonderful and replaces terminals
  - Firefox does my email
  - Most docs I work with are embedded in code, or are HTML or LaTeX, so they're easy to edit in Emacs

You're right that two buttons was an exaggeration. I do have some other buttons for XChat, OpenOffice, Gimp, Inkscape, and our cluster-monitoring GUI.

I probably think the window manager just isn't that important because the window managers I've used (gnome, kde, and xfce) always seem to be just fine.

Because it's really very legitimate.

For most of us, almost any window manager is good enough, and it's very hard to compete with good enough.

Even if some window manager X is really awesome and much better than all competitors, it takes at least *some* effort to switch to it, and it's a multiplicative cost (your work computer, home computer, laptop, blah blah blah). Why spend the effort for something possibly better, when what you have is working?

The terminal is fine for lots of things, but when it comes to things like developing, email, browsing, etc. it does not cut it

Right. Really you need two buttons: one for Emacs and another one for Firefox. Given these and virtual desktops, I'm pretty happy to use any window manager.

accept... :(

First off, many libraries surely *are* adult book stores, if you go to the right aisle.

But your response is more thoughtful than I expected, so I too will tone it down a notch.

AFAICT the guy in the article was watching porn in a library but was not in fact trying to "ram a five year old in the ass." You seem to believe that the two are essentially equivalent. I don't agree, but for the sake of argument assume you are right.

You propose to kill him, on the spot, in front of your daughter, even. You point out that animals will do extraordinary things to protect their young. But we aren't animals. We have cell phones to call for help, police who respond quickly, and a justice system to protect our values.

Your proposed approach is obviously (1) not within the bounds of justice, and (2) leaves your daughter traumatized and without a father for the rest of her childhood. My pithy reply was meant to highlight these observations. The proper response is obviously to instead call 911 and have the police come arrest him; if he tries to flee, then by all means make a citizen's arrest until the police arrive. You "protect" your daughter to an equal degree, and at worst expose yourself to a truly minor civil lawsuit compared to a criminal murder trial.

If children were being illegally exposed to porn, the responsible people who noticed this should have went to the police instead of the librarians; this is a matter of law, not of library policy. Otherwise, he committed no crime and did nothing wrong; telling him what he can and cannot view is cut and dry censorship, and the library is right to fight it.

Your plan sounds pretty good, daddy-o.

But once you're all done murdering a guy in front of your daughter---to... uh... protect her from seeing naked people----and you're sitting in jail, content that defending her honor was worth it... Well, then you'll be locked up!

So who will be with her to kill the hobo in the park to protect her from seeing alcohol being consumed?
And who will be with her to kill the video store clerk to protect her from the inappropriate lyrics on his hip-hop cd?
And who will be with her to kill the oil-change guy to protect her from his sailor-like swearing after he burns his hand?

And who will give her love and guidance and, well, you know... keep her safe from actually harmful things?

Oh well, at least you got to sound pretty fierce on Slashdot.

Think about why you would need a warning label. Oh yeah, because you want to put something into your body that you haven't taken the time to first research and learn about.

Seriously, what the hell.

When the doctor prescribes an antibiotic for my infant son, I remind him that he's also taking Prilosec for reflux and doesn't tolerate milk/soy, and ask if it's still the right thing to prescribe. When I pick up the prescription, I double check this with the pharmacist, and ask him whether I should give the medicines together or at different times, etc. When I get home, I read the labels and papers to see what I need to do for storing the medicine, what the right dosage is, etc.

You want to make this harder... so that "stupid" people will accidentally kill themselves and their children?

I'm good at math and programming. Do I deserve to die because I don't know foobarzacil + bazidrol = heart attack? For anyone who isn't a doctor/pharmacist/expert who has been trained about all of this stuff, having these discussions with experts and reading the labels is doing the research.

That's sort of their own fault, eh?

What about Bevier's 1987 dissertation, "A Verified Operating System Kernel." ftp://ftp.cs.utexas.edu/pub/boyer/diss/bevier.pdf

After using ANTLR for a class long ago and being so impressed with it, I just returned to ANTLR today. I was shocked at the lack of documentation on the web site. I eventually typed "antlr reference" into google and found the following PDF: http://www.antlr.org/share/1084743321127/ANTLR_Reference_Manual.pdf It's outdated and had many no-longer-supported constructs, but paired with the changes from 2.x to 3.0 it was adequate for what I needed to do. I can see nothing comparable linked from the ANTLR homepage. It seems like an obvious attempt to get you to buy the book. Oh well.