Comment Good English there ... (Score 1) 57
"Implement a porting?"
Sheesh.
"Implement a porting?"
Sheesh.
Very funny post - but in seriousness, not likely because (eventual) utter lack of optical drives will herd all the Apple drones into purchasing all of their apps via the App Store.
Or people could just simply continue to do online purchases directly from a vendor's website.
>>>BD-ROM is the spinny disk format for Movies. it's not for software.
With the exception of the millions of Software discs sold for ~50 million playstation owners. But that's such a tiny, small, insignificant market, so I can see why you ignored it.
And if you have a Mac, those Playstation discs are the equivalent of a coaster for your drink.
So you think that it would be as stupid for Intel to worry about the low end mobile market as it would have been for DEC to worry about the low end microcomputer market. After all DEC was making big money selling PDP-11s and VAXes. If they had come out with an inexpensive PDP-11 or even a 16 bit version of the VAX it could have cost them sales of the more expensive mini-line.
I guess you forget the Pro350. Don't worry, most people do.
Not sure what the motivation for making this up would be. There are likely going to be reprisals for this act.
What was the motivation for making up the Jessica Lynch or Pat Tillman stories?
Simple home-front moral building, in light of dwindling support for a war that had (and still has) no end in sight.
Not if the jackbooted fed shitheads and their Christian lapdogs in the lobbying groups^W^W churches keep trying to fight against what states voted for.
Remember, we fought a war over this before and the federal government won.
Wrong.
The Civil War was fought over the issue of slavery. Anyone who claims otherwise is a fool who doesn't know history, or a racist pining for the Good Old Days when blacks knew their place.
Which competition are you going to take your skills to if ALL businesses decide to place "unreasonable consideration upon" people's employment?
If I'm unsatisfied with the offerings made available I have the option to either start my own business or find another industry to work in.
Now is that something you've actually done, or is this just an example of mental masturbation?
Spoken like a non-parent.
Man, I wish I hadn't used up all of my mod points yesterday.
Well, the sources I'm finding are people who estimate costs as part of their jobs.
You give no reason for me to believe what you say, and no method on how you got your estimates. You're literally, "some guy on the Internet who said."
So, do you work in the electronics/consumer-products manufacturing business, or are you just some guy who surfs websites?
Most teachers get pensions. That often means half pay for the rest of your life after working 20 years. That is a huge savings.
Play with this spreadsheet. Assume a teacher earns $40k/year from age 25 to 45 and pulls $20k/year in pension from age 45 to 80. What salary and savings rate would be required for someone to have the same standard of living in the private sector without a pension?
First of all, starting teacher salaries are nowhere near $40K.
Second, where do you get this idea that teachers are retiring at 45 and living the high life?
Most important, you have to realize that contributions to the pension plans are deferred benefits paid in lieu of immediate salary. In other words, when the retiree collects a pension, he is collecting from the money that was put aside for him. The total compensation package is cash salary plus pension contribution.
The other option, of course, is for the employee to be given the pension money in cash up front and then he can invest it how he wants (or spend it, or whatever). Or, more likely, the employee will be told, "We are no longer contributing to your pension, and we are not giving you the pension contribution to you in cash," which is, no matter how you slice it, a significant reduction in compensation.
As for your BOM argument, the standard 20% only is component costs and does not include assembly which adds to overall manufacturing costs.
Assembly costs absolutely ARE included in the bill-of-materials cost.
And not every product is "standard.". Companies want their products to have 20% BOM and 30% margin but it doesn't always happen.
While there may be special cases, increasing the BOM cost -- read: reducing margin -- is frowned upon, and doesn't happen unless there's a compelling reason.
I am not an Apple historian. But from what I've seen, Apple marks their product up 100% from what it costs them to make.
And you have no idea about how consumer products are priced. The standard is that the bill of materials cost -- what it actually costs for the parts, PCB, enclosure, display, everything to build a product and put it in the shrink-wrapped box, ready for retail sale -- is 20% to 25% of retail list price. Which means that the $500 Widget -- made by any vendor -- costs $100 to build. So, in effect, the profit when sold at retail is, what, do the math, 250%? But don't forget that the manufacturer PAYS FOR EVERYTHING out of the difference between wholesale price and bill of materials cost: salaries, benefits, facilities, everything.
Did you even do a basic google search on the cost of an ipad? I just did, and it came up with cost estimates between 219$ to 350$.
And the iSuppli estimate is way too high. Don't believe it.
I'd guess that the hardware is subsidized by the increase in turn over from iTunes and the App Store - probably selling the iPad at close to cost price knowing that they'll make the money back through use.
Your guess is wrong.
Apple is probably selling them at a lower profit margin because they generate revenue through app sales.
Utterly wrong.
Yeah this is really interesting. Especially because Apple are known for overpricing things. Does anyone else sort of get the feeling that they are losing money on the sales and making it back in app store? If they were doing that - it's a completely different to their usual strategy.
Actually, Apple apparently has a healthy profit margin in the iPads. iSuppli's teardown of the original iPads estimates the costs of materials + Manufacturing at $230 to $346, depending on the model. Of course that does not include R&D, marketing and support costs, and it may be a little "optimistic", but still it suggests that Apple could actually charge less for the same products and still make a profit.
You don't understand product costs. R+D, marketing, salaries, overhead, facilities costs have nothing to do with a product's bill-of-materials cost. NOTHING. So imagine that iSuppli is correct with their $230 BOM cost (they're not). The R+D, etc all comes out of the difference between the BOM cost and the wholesale price. So if a product lists for $500, wholesale might generally be 60% of list ($300), leaving only $70 to pay for everything Apple needs to run its business? Absurd. So the BOM cost is substantially lower, more like $100 to $150. Of course Apple does have their direct sales channels, which cut out the middleman (like Dell) so there is added profit there, but there still is a cost associated with a retail operation.
Systems programmers are the high priests of a low cult. -- R.S. Barton
