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Comment Re:The point? (Score 2) 133

It basically comes down to the moon is a dangerous, dull place, but if we ever want humanity to "move to the stars" we have to do the tough work first and having even a mediocre circular logic reason is probably better than none. It is basically the same logic as playing minecraft (or better yet minetest).

Comment Re:"Foxconn announced ..." (Score 1) 100

Your person income tax is also a tax on profit. That is why you can deduct business expenses. If you made all your money personally reselling baseball cards an say in a year you bought $40k of cards then sold $70k of cards. your taxes would be on the $30k profit which you would report as $70k gross income less the $40k deductions. Which is fundamentally the same way we all do our taxes. Now the tax rates and incentives make it all unique. NOw if you incorporate your business and pay yourself a salary out of that $30k you can play lots of tricks where both you and your company make less money possible knocking you down a tax bracket (i.e. lower tax rate), or maybe you just pay yourself in stocks or dividends so it is captial gains. But we are still all taxed on profit.

Comment Re:Construction Worker? (Score 1) 68

It make a lot of sense with everyone staying in it makes it a lot easier to do a lot of construction and road projects that would normally be to difficult to do because of crowding or rush hour traffic. If some one was looking for a time to paint all of times square you couldn't ask for a better chance.

Comment Re:What standing do they have? (Score 1) 249

Yes I'm speculating, that's why I said "I am assuming" then followed it with a line of reasoning.

I don't know if the algorithm is a neural net though I doubt it for the reasons I stated. I don't know if the algorithm is open to any level though as I said it should be.

My statement was the assumption that it is a computer algorithm thus it is inscrutable and cannot determine why it generates the outputs it does is on the surface is wrong. I fear a trend among programmers that it is not worth trying to understand why an algorithm works a certain way because it is all black box magic, when algorithmic analysis is supposed to be so core to the nature of computer science. It's like hearing a chemist claim that the properties of a material could never be quantified.

Comment Re:What standing do they have? (Score 1) 249

I thought this site was full of engineers and computer scientists. If you don't believe an algorithm can be analysed to figure out why it makes the decisions it does please stay away from software design.
Now the algorithm may be wrong, error prone or just bad by intention, but that should be able to be resolved by requiring it to be open and well documented which is the requirement on most other government decisions.
Too many people act like algorithmic software is magic, and I think that view is getting worse.
I am assuming this algorithm is not a Neural Net trained on inputs of "bad" immigrants, but I would think that would be grossly illegal. as the input data set would be too small to train anything and the output would just be automated prejudice.

Comment Re:Calling libertarians (Score 1) 90

IANAL(ibertarian), but being that one of the fundamental lynchpins of libertarian arguments for corporate rights is that corporate rights derive from the rights of the individuals that make them up. so any right you preserve for a corporation is a right you preserve for individuals. So this transforms the solution space or the question slightly. Want is more important people's right to 1) keep their public information private 2) keep track of peoples public data.
And in practice this is incredibly nuanced and requires a ton of case by case debate to find what society finds acceptable. Maybe the solution is you can't take a discernible picture of someone without their express permission, most celebrities would love that. Or maybe we are a year away from everyone storing all of there visual memory in an indexed searchable format so we all effectively have perfect recall. More likely it will be somewhere in between.

To me the more troubling thought is something an earlier commentor said about banning it from private and low level government use. Implying it should only be legally available to a set of government higher-ups. Imagine a world where the only people tracking you are your country's Chief Executive, your country's intelligence service and people doing it illegally. It makes Google doing it almost feel comforting in comparison.

In the end mass tracking is probably inevitable though. On that note I would feel like the best thing to do is just fully embrace the reality and democratize the data. Have a giant database where anyone can at least see all the data. Then everyone can benefit from the data maximizing its usability and devaluing it at the same time, reducing the drive to collect it.

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