I don't think it's an over-simplification at all. As I said, I do not find porn to be harmful in the least.

I don't think that's why.

And? Look, I think most people are unintelligent, but I don't think they're completely without brains. Yes, even children.

That's like saying that if you say that people can get good ideas from television shows, you must also believe that violent content makes people more aggressive. Nonsense. If you believe that people can 'intelligently' decide what to take away from these shows, that bit of nonsense falls right apart.

But they're not mindless. I think people often make the mistake of thinking that children are mindless little objects.

I don't believe that to be naive at all. I just don't believe in magical brainwashing waves, or anything such as that. I don't think porn is harmful at all.

And you're just a naive government cheerleader. Every government throughout history abused its powers in horrendous ways, and furthermore, the fact that we even limit what powers our governments have indicates that we believe they can't be trusted with certain powers. Why? They're corruptible humans. I have every reason to refer to them as "government thugs"; I believe distrust of government is a good thing.

So if people wanted religion censored, that would be okay? I can't say I agree with that. It is highly probable that many of the people who want this censorship would be angry if religious websites were to be censored, and that is because they only want things they don't like to be censored; when someone suggests censoring something they don't like, suddenly censorship is a problem.

Personally, I'd say pornography is harmless and religion can ruin lives, but that's not the point. The problem is that you missed my point completely.

It's amusing that you think I care about popularity, and that you even have to mention it.

If it's on by default, then it's restricting access to certain sites on the open Internet, which is open by default. I can't get behind such blatant censorship, no matter what you say. I don't think government thugs should even have a say in this to begin with.

And you never even answered my question. What would the problem be with censoring religious websites like they're doing to porn sites? The filter would be 100% "voluntary"; maybe it would be on by default, but you could opt out of it. What's the issue? And don't just say that people don't want those censored; that's not an answer.

The real question is: Why should the government be able to mandate that certain content be censored by default just because some people don't like it? Why not other content too? This is completely subjective.

These anti-porn crusaders are, in fact, completely unintelligent.

The filter. The very thing that government thugs told ISPs to enable so that certain websites that irrational pieces of trash don't like would be censored.

Well, since you didn't respond to anything else I said...

Being opposed to censorship is different from being a teenager, a porn addict, or having Asperger's syndrome.

Censorship being on by default to block certain content that irrational people don't like is not something I'd expect in any free country, that's what.

By "normal", you must mean "irrational". The only reason you've given is, "Some people don't like porn, but they don't mind religion, so this censorship is okay." I simply don't find that convincing.

If you want to filter out porn, do it yourself.

Does it matter? I see the mere collection of this metadata as an abuse.

Just like how if I don't jump off a building, I'm a coward. Not everyone wants or needs to be a martyr, and it just isn't necessary in this situation. We have a lot of information, and we will either choose to act on it or we won't; Snowden does not need to become a martyr.

And on by default. But if they're completely voluntary, why not ban religious sites? If people want to be indoctrinated, they can simply opt out of the filter! No big deal, really!

And when you have a government that's using censorship as a solution, I believe your government is insane and unjust.

I don't think that's a problem, either.

Regardless of whether or not they watch porn. Furthermore, I highly, highly doubt that most people (even kids) aren't capable of distinguishing between reality and porn. But even if someone isn't capable of doing that, a five second talk would likely suffice; censorship will never be an acceptable solution to me.

Not in this case, I think.