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Comment Re:why do athiests love to hate belivers so much? (Score 1) 1293

(Playing Devil's Advocate here)

where did the energy/mass come from to make god?

Energy and mass (and also time) are phenomena associated with this universe. God isn't part of this universe. So your question isn't valid.

Some forms of Christianity like to emphasise the trancendence of God - he is unknowable and independent of the material universe. There is an abstract canopy above one of the altars at St Paul's Cathedral which is, apparently, supposed to remind us of this.

Having said that, Christianity also likes to emphasis God's immanence - a complete contradiction of the above. Still, if you can grok the Trinity, you can grok that contradiction too.

Comment Re:Because... (Score 4, Interesting) 1293

Just completely hypothetically, imagine you had a computer program that ran a massive physics simulation. And imagine your lifespan is such that you can observe it for massive periods of time. So you set up the starting conditions for a Big Bang, and hit the 'run simulation' button, and watch it go. And eventually, as you knew they would (because of the physics you programmed, and because of statistical likelihoods), some of the matter clusters into solar systems and planets, then on one planet some primitive proteins come about in some inorganic process, then prokaryotes, then an evolutionary process that eventually results in humans.

At that point, you could conceivably think, OK, these interesting entities in a remote corner of my simulation are doing some weird things. They seem to be controlling themselves in this structure in their heads. Perhaps I can put some hooks into the simulation so that I can observe what's happening in those brains. If I can reverse-engineer the structure that's evolved, I guess I could read their thoughts - and even write their thoughts.

And there's a mechanism, whereby "the guy running the simulation" can appear in visions, hear "prayer", and, if he also manipulates the rest of the simulation, perform "acts of god".

I thing somewhere there's a calculation that indicates that, if Moore's Law continues, the probability that this universe is a simulation running on a computer is greater than the probability we're in "real life". But I can't help but instinctively think it's fanciful.

Comment Re:Faith and evolution ARE compatible (Score 1) 1293

1. It is not a fact that human beings evolved from primordial goo. That would be an unsubstantiated assertion based on an extreme extrapolation of limited evidence of small-scale phenomena.

I assume by "primordial goo", you mean a mass of single-celled living organisms.

Given what we know about mutation and selection, if prokaryotes existed 3.6 billion years ago, it's pretty much inevitable that they would have evolved into something as complex as humans by now (and fungi, and trees, and birds, and slugs, whales, and all that other stuff ...)

Now, we can look at fossil prokaryotes in the form of Stromatolite.

So if you're going to state that our evolution from these isn't the most likely explanation for our existence, you have to explain what prevented evolution from taking its natural course. Perhaps God did some intervention to suppress mutation, or to distort the effects of natural selection?

Comment Re:Faith is always present... (Score 1) 1293

But humans are very good at maintaining two conflicting views at the same time. Frankly, if we couldn't we'd go mad.

So it's quite possible for an evolutionary scientist to do his job based on a firm assumption that all life on earth evolved from a single-celled organism -- and yet go to church on Sunday and sincerely praise God for creating Adam and Eve in His own image. We just compartmentalise our conflicting sides.

Comment Re:Faith and evolution ARE compatible (Score 1) 1293

The problem with evolution is that it's not the kind of system a God that cared and loved us would design.

Does survival of the fittest seem righteous to you? Why should the most well adapted survive? Surely a better system would be one where people with kindness, co-operation and charity thrive and the selfish, brutish and dishonest perish? Yet we do not live in this world.

Actually it turns out that kindness, cooperation and charity are very good herd survival strategies. Which is why humans (and other successful species) evolved to exhibit those traits so much.

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