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Comment Re:If You Are Right (Score 1) 232

"But I thought the gassing of civilians was just lies and propaganda to build a case for war? "
You thought wrong, as you've done throughout this exchange bc you're too anxious to attack the messenger rather than consider the actual points being made. In this case the propaganda factor in the refrain of "Saddam gassing his own people" is deceptive in that they weren't "his people", they were Kurds within colonially drawn boundaries amidst a war, enemies of Iraq to this day. and further, the gas was supplied by the _USA_ for exactly that usage.
Gassing people is very horrible indeed, but coming from the mouths of US officials, responsible for millions of innocents caught up in the US slaughter machine, it is clearly _propaganda_.

Comment Re:If You Are Right (Score 1) 232

wait a minute, you cannot give a shit if human beings are gassed, but you're in a lather over some random voice on the internets pointing out that you are reciting chapter and verse from the US State Dept story of Iraq...i call bullshit! i say that you care about those fucking millions of souls we destroyed for no fucking good reason and you're pissed at me for the dissonance i've caused you.
you're welcome.

Comment Re:If You Are Right (Score 1) 232

and the continuing bombing runs into Iraq, not part of the context? If the terms of the agreement were that Iraq would agree to massive starvation and ongoing destruction in perpetuity, then such an agreement is null and void. You are telling a one-sided story of a conquest of a country, there was nothing legal, moral or just at any point, Iraq was setup like a bowling pin.

Comment Re:If You Are Right (Score 1) 232

It is specious to focus on that particular parry in a vacuum...unless you are trying to maintain a worldview that the dismantling of Iraq was Just, Legal and Humane...(rather than a cold-blooded strategic move to reshape the Middle East in terms more favorable to certain needs of the Empire and their most cherished friends.) Which btw, will go down in history as one of the great crimes of all time and the beginning of the end of that Empire.

Comment Re:Yeah, so bad (Score 1) 232

"how do we know that the public report of the commission is really the complete report? Were there parts kept under wraps, that could have embarrassed certain people in powerful positions? That there was more to blame for the attacks?"

seriously? the commission was a joke by any basic standards of investigation, AND major parts of the crippled investigation won't be released. Embarassment? it's not so much the embarrassment as it is the capital crimes and treasonous conspiracy that will never be opened to the public. Most of the premises of your post refer to stories about terrorists both prior and post 9/11, with zero basis in anything provable and much to cast doubt on it (like referring to "Al Qaeda" as an organized group). Basically the entire jihadi terrorist fable is a story to sell the wars and military/security expenditures and has done nothing more than make fabulous money for some, help Israel's expansionist agenda, create enemies in every strata of society worldwide...and very likely is the beginning of the end of the USA as the dominant world power.

Comment Re:Yeah, so bad (Score 1) 232

OBL specifically denied involvement in 9/11, more than once. You're thinking of the fake OBL video that had him claiming involvement.
and furthermore, 9/11 was never investigated in any meaningful way and the sham investigation hasnt even been released, so you can pretty much assume that every fact about 9/11 they have decided to tell you is pure bullshit, like every other thing they tell you. Pray for more wikileaks if you'd like to know the facts about what the corrupt douches are doing with your tax money.

Comment Re:If You Are Right (Score 1) 232

"A clear cut situation like this should not have required 30 minutes let alone 30 days to condemn"

bwahahahaha. Your clarity is the clarity of the child. The other countries all knew it was a setup, a flimsy pretext for taking down Iraq, and they of course wanted no part of it until the price was right.

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