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Comment Re:Steve Jobs was wrong (Score 0) 193

YES. THIS.

Steve Jobs had no idea how the vast majority of people used their computers to get stuff done. He built lovely consumer devices. He's just not the authority people make him out to be.

Comment Re: Why Java? (Score 1) 179

I just run 'make' on any BSD, any Mac, cygwyn windows, or I could try the ubuntu windows (haven't don that yet), any linux and any other AIX, solaris or other older POSIX system and the code runs. with those .jars I always need the right version of JDK installed by an admin and it always seems tricky to get things running. need to change manifests, security settings on OSes of java installs change all of a sudden. oh and then we have these nice java 3d dependancies that require OS specific binaries installed again.

so I hence my question. really portable java?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, now show me your build script, tool chain and dependencies.

I have a JDK and ANT and while the scripts can get complex, this is due tot he complexity of the app, not the complexity of how to compile this particular bit of code on this particular host for some particular target.

I grant you that a solid, mature portability ecosystem has grown around C (several, in fact), but those things don't make C more portable.

They make it easier to port C.

There is a big difference.

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