the problem was what he did wasn't harmless

yes, he's a nonviolent person, but we don't know that

if i point a gun at you as a joke and you don't know me, you're going to react as if i am serious

likewise, anyone flying towards a government building could be a harmless protester, but we have to assume their intentions are violent. simply because we have to be responsible and protect people from harm

frankly, he's lucky to be a live. and i agree with him 100% ideologically. but i would have preferred he had been shot down. yes, he could be killed if shot down. so you shouldn't FLY AT A GOVERNMENT BUILDING. it's really not complicated to understand that's a threat

you cannot pull stunts that can easily be construed as malicious and be expected to get away with it. there are a million better ways to get your point across. the guy obviously was creative, he couldn't think of something else far less threatening?

i am a manufacturer that pollutes the water source of a small town. i don't want to spend the millions it would take to fix that, pay reparations, face oversight, etc.

instead i spend a lot of money, but less money, on 72 point bold font lies on page 2 of my local paper every day. "jobs will be lost!" (despite my sky high profits that could easily absorb the costs) "the pollution is harmless!" (contrary to solid scientific evidence) " no one is actually polluting!" {despite proof)

the proof, science, and financials are attested to by honest citizens, and this is buried on page 32, mostly unread

most people read the lies first, and only a few people scan the editorials for 30 seconds. in this way popular opinion is shifted, and the populace is left with beliefs that do not match truth

do you understand that example?

welcome to the reality of a topic you are injecting a profoundly ignorant or malicious willful intellectual dishonesty into

stop lying, or start thinking, whether you are malicious or just stupid on this topic

no one is telling anyone not to talk. what is being said is that your speech should rise and fall on its merit alone. not automatically dominate the conversation, simply because someone purchased that. usually to preserve corrupt sources of income that exists exactly because the truthful speech about the corruption is squelched and drowned out by lies and propaganda

are you trying to say purchased lies and propaganda don't exist and can't dominate and flood out the truth unfairly?

they are stopped

do you think the full page 72 point bold faced lie on page 2 has equal influence as the carefully reasoned and truthful letter to the editor buried on the bottom of page 32?

this is what i don't understand about you:

you're trying to deny a very obvious fact: that money can influence opinion unfairly. it does. this is not a fact in doubt by anyone intelligent and honest on this topic

so if you continue to deny that, we are left wondering if you are an intelligent person with malicious intent. or a very dumb person who can't understand something very simple

the repetition of lies in bought and paid for media channels crowds out truth. people are easy to confuse and don't have the time to research topics. so you smack them over the head repeatedly with smears and propaganda and you move opinion away from truth

those who derive cash from unfair sources depend upon keeping people divided and ignorant as to the truth to keep robbing us. it's an investment

this notion that money mixed with speech is fair is stupid and laughable. it's the very definition of corruption. if you honestly see no problem with it your intent is malicious or you're stupendously naive/ ignorant

if you get to plaster propaganda and lies, it is very easy to crowd out truth and reason

you do understand people lie in the service of their agenda, right?

broke ass liars exist too. it's just that they get drowned out by truth, all else being equal

add money to the equation, and lies crowd out truth, because those who make money from sources that depend upon lying need to keep that coming. it's an investment: keep people dumb and divided, and you can keep robbing them

this notion that money is the equivalent of speech is stupid and laughable. that anyone says it with a straight face is simple proof of how corrupt they are

you're not being intellectually honest. if the guy with the most money gets the most speech, that is a corrupt government. it's pretty much the exact definition of corruption

"i have more money than you, therefore my words matter more than you" that's the end result of what you are saying, whether you admit to it or not. now you need to be intellectually honest and admit that's what your beliefs really mean. you embrace corruption

money isn't speech

money is corruption

if the guy with the most money gets the most speech, that is in fact the exact definition of corruption

you know, corruption destroying your country should be more important to you than hating unions

but it's exactly this shortsighted hate they use to keep us weak and divided

you're the problem. more than unions, more than the corruption really. because they can't keep us divided while they rob us, unless so many people like you care about hating your fellow americans than looking out for a government that actually represents you

go ahead: hate minorities. hat ethe poor. hate people with different social views

you hate. that's what is most important to you. more than looking out for yourself. they laugh and rob you. you, you're the problem

most americans agree with him

he could have chosen a better way to make his point. but he'll be prosecuted, and the corruption will continue

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people really have to understand that Scientology is a thug mafia make believing it is a religion. it is no religion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O...

Scientology is not a religion. It's a mafia masquerading as a religion. No other religion thugs on its members and makes them slaves to pay for revelation.

I am no friend of religion myself, but you have to understand Scientology is nothing like Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc. in terms of behavior. No one forces you to pay to read the Quran. No one locks you up if you try to leave the Church. Contributions to Jewish congregation are voluntary, not compulsory. Of course there are fringe groups that do do these things. Amd they are rightly seem as cults far outside mainstream. Like Scientology is.

My point is simply the case of Scientology and the case against religion in general are completely different topics and you can't segue from one to the other.

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