Comment Re:The Gist (Score 1) 696
The parents arguments still hold. Wikileaks may release larger chunks of information, but is'nt that a given considering that the horde of information that wiki-leaks has is far larger than the Pentagon Papers?
The fact remains that Wikileaks has withheld and redacted a lot of information voluntarily and permanently.
http://www.wikileaksforum.net/ in fact has a thread on redactions which they feel should not have been performed.
"The Pentagon Papers were held back for over a decade to protect diplomatic relations."
To make a couple of simple points:
Ellsberg->1970s NYT: :: Manning->Wikileaks. If you want to be consistent, blame Manning for not showing Ellsberg's restraint, do not blame Wikileaks.
NYT is US based. Wikileaks is not. Why the heck should Wikileaks care about US Diplomatic relations? American diplomatic power has often coerced it allies into taking actions that were against their national interest, against the will of their citizens and sometimes against their laws.
Even without being a 1st amendment fundamentalist, it could be argued that reduction of the US ability to do things in the dark diplomatically is not a bad thing for most countries.
The fact remains that Wikileaks has withheld and redacted a lot of information voluntarily and permanently.
http://www.wikileaksforum.net/ in fact has a thread on redactions which they feel should not have been performed.
"The Pentagon Papers were held back for over a decade to protect diplomatic relations."
To make a couple of simple points:
Ellsberg->1970s NYT:
NYT is US based. Wikileaks is not. Why the heck should Wikileaks care about US Diplomatic relations? American diplomatic power has often coerced it allies into taking actions that were against their national interest, against the will of their citizens and sometimes against their laws.
Even without being a 1st amendment fundamentalist, it could be argued that reduction of the US ability to do things in the dark diplomatically is not a bad thing for most countries.