Well, "id" is an Objective C keyword, IIRC.

The title of the post that *I* responded to was "utter crap language."

Not "utter crap platform", not "utter crap run time".... "utter crap language"... then followed up with a rant about the platform.

Sounds like your gripe is with Java the platform, not Java the language.

let's repeat our folly.

serendipity
serndipd/
noun
the occurrence and development of events by chance in a happy or beneficial way.

Two words: tabs, spaces.

That's what I thought.

It was purely serendipity, and now the install base is so large you can;t get rid of it.

Fast yes, quick.... not so much.

Don't know about most, but looking over the ridges of western Maryland I can see several still standing.

I can see it now.....

You must be the douche bag that made a deal with God and is going to live forever.

Please see my original post:

They're not going to work as cops ever again.

And they're not going to get hired as security guards in the U.S., either. Would you hire someone that you already knew, 100%, had violated someone's civil liberties so egregiously? Of course not: your shareholders would can you for hiring them. If you hire people you know are a discipline problem, you're just begging for a lawsuit when they fuck up again while working for you.

If you think the people who hire cops don't bother to check with previous employers and do Google searches on new applicants, you need your head examined. These two are done. They're not going to work as cops ever again.

About 10 years ago or so.

I bet Cable Hogue could take the Death Star any day.