I think the point is more that if you're working at the kind of place where it's "up or out" and 80-hour weeks, you've probably made a bad decision somewhere along the line. If you WANT to work in that environment with those kinds of hours, you should probably see a shrink.

or they just have different priorities than you- the thing about an 'up or out' place like the poster is describing is that the payoff is HUGE; these hours are a short term sacrifice to make the seriously big bucks.

Those of us with a life outside of work (you know, wife and kids, hobbies, outside interests, a social life) can clue you in: you're not going to take any of that stuff you're buying with you when you die, and you're not going to get any of those hours back. Ever. I can guarantee that I'm not going to regret quiet evenings spent reading with my wife, afternoons spent at the pool with my daughter, or any of the many other things I enjoy doing. I doubt you can say the same for the myriad hours you're spending in the pursuit of money you don't have the time to enjoy.

when these dudes make partner and cash out at 40, i don't think they regret their choices either. for example, my buddy is a sr. manager at deloitte, on the partner list for next year. already making bank. should *easily* be able to cash out at 40. his kids will be 6 yrs old then- and he'll be able to spend as much time as he wants with them, travel with them, etc, etc.

i've been on 9/80 for just about 10 years now. it SERIOUSLY ROCKS.

the only thing that sucks is the 'long' 5 day weeks.

uh, that's maybe supposed to sound all spooky and scary and stuff, but that's stuff that happens BEFORE you even get a clearance!

yeah, bullshit is right- bullshit power users don't use add-ons; look at the examples given in the article and the summary- flash, pdf, and quicktime? unless you categorize all the youtube users as 'techies', eh?

accepting or not accepting an internship based on compensation... sounds really dumb. pick an internship based on what you're going to learn and how it's going to prep you for the future, as well as if it's going to make you more competitive when getting your first 'real' job. as an intern, you're probably not going to be able to negotiate that offer, but you're that's not the case with the first job.

uh, no, there are real grey area issues here, and it's not a matter of stupid people don't get it and smart people do- from the gs-dev message linked, the gs folks 'do not consider bundling as an integrated component intended to work with other software as "mere aggregation" under the GPL.' the point to note is they do not consider it an aggregate- not that it isn't. it's a grey area - look at the gnu fact- http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#MereAggregation : "Where's the line between two separate programs, and one program with two parts? This is a legal question, which ultimately judges will decide."

it's acknowledged right up front that this is a grey area legal issue.