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Comment Re:Outward facing systems ... (Score 1) 391

On trusted networks, yes, perfectly acceptable. Any security measure is a balance cost and benefit, for a trusted network the benefit of encrypting passwords is none at all. All it does is adding to a sense of security, not to real security.

Right. Except that there is no such thing as a trusted network. The old idea that we don't have to worry about security once you are inside the moat is just that: old. It has also been proven wrong time and again.

Even on the big bad internet the chances of you password being hijacked by a keylogger or because you typed it into a 'Check these pics!!' page are way bigger then it being picked up by a network sniffer.

Internet keylogger? I'm not sure what that is, but the chances of either of those happening is nil when I never use clear text authentication for anything.

I fetch my mail from my ISP using POP and a plain text password. I trust my ISP to make sure their routers aren't hacked and aren't running all sorts of sniffers. If I wouldn't trust them that much I should not be receiving any email through their servers anyway.

I'm glad you trust every single person who works for your ISP to be nice, competent, and to never make mistakes. Can I assume that this trust also extends to all the folks running servers in your ISP's facility (or the datacenter where they rent space)?

And I'm not ignorant, I noticed those bruteforce attacks TFA is talking about in my logs before I read about it. Did you?

I'm not sure how noticing something in your logs has anything to do with your clear ignorance of security best practices, but whatever.

In all seriousness, thanks. It is this kind of foolish thinking (yes, please keep using clear text authentication), that keeps us real security professionals in business.

Comment Re:The Headline (Score 1) 391

To add to that it begs the question, shouldn't any operating system/application be secure by default?

That is really the heart of the matter. "Security" is not some end state that can be reached, so it can not be there by default. Computer security is an ongoing process involving practices, procedures, and policies. It requires ongoing maintenance. Organizations that understand this have information security teams working full time. The rest have undetected compromised hosts that people are ignoring because last year they installed something to make it "secure."

Comment Re:Outward facing systems ... (Score 1) 391

I would argue that putting ssh on some arbitrary high port is in fact a bad idea. If for no other reason than you have given yourself the false sense that you have added some level of security. If you can't run ssh on port 22 and keep it secure, you are not making the situation better by moving to another port.

Comment Re:Outward facing systems ... (Score 1) 391

I don't use POP, and I only use IMAP over OpenVPN or a LAN. I think OpenVPN > SSL, and I can physically see all computers connected to the LAN switch.

...and you were doing so well, too! Why do people assume that "the lan" is some magical secure place? There is no such place. Treat all traffic leaving your machine as if it is on a public network. Otherwise, any vulnerable computer on your lan makes all the rest of the computers vulnerable as well.

Comment Re:So... (Score 1) 252

While I don't agree with the parent's tone, I do agree with the sentiment. Most people don't want to learn anything. They don't care how it works. And yes, the Ubuntu forums are full of bad advice.

Also, I don't think the parent is talking about people like you or me. I like to learn how it all works and then use the easy automated tools. That way I can fix it when it breaks. You, I, and most slackware users are the people others will pay to fix things.

Instead of bashing Slackware, I just think of it as a distro for people who like manual transmissions, so to speak. ;)

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Submission + - Microsoft Shares Plunge On Windows Decline

Rantastic writes: According to Information Week, Microsoft said sales of its core Windows operating system declined 29% in its fiscal fourth quarter due to weakness in the personal computer market and deferred Windows 7 revenues. Microsoft shares were off more than 8% in early Friday trading on the news.

Comment Re:Just now? (Score 1) 164

As for 64bit distros it is still hard to find a real use for them. At least in my environment.

I don't know what you do in your "environment" but I don't have a single server in the data center with less than 16g of ram and that right there requires a 64bit distro to use effectively.

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