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Comment Re:That's not how the world works, thankfully. (Score 1) 466

I'm excellent at learning new stuff as I go. And at problem solving, critical thinking, creative solutions. However, I never get the chance to prove this, as I never get the chance to even interview. No call backs from resume submissions. Very little feedback from anyone. One recruiter did say that her boss saw my resume, and said "oh he's a real jack-of-all-trades", with a harumph, and then walked off. I have worked on a myriad of different projects in different industries, from semiconductor fabrication (and writing automated test scripts for the test machines) to Hollywood props (wearable technology, worn by some high-profile performing artists, during the Superbowl no less!). Perhaps the super-serious industry engineers see the Hollywood stuff and get mad and can't take me seriously? While simultaneously the entertainment-types see me as too boring, serious, should-work-a-regular-job-at-some-corporate-office-park type of guy? I honestly don't know. The question is: will switching to programming allow me to be able to get a job, ANY KIND of paying job, even if it pays not that much? One can only be out of work for so long...

Comment Re:How do I check my level? (Score 1) 466

I can certainly write code that could pass both those tests, even with my current basic level of programming competence. And I might be able to do it in 15 minutes. But I can't tell you what a "non-standard hashing function" would look like (just a standard one), and I can't really explain what an API is to anyone's satisfaction.

Comment Re:Can't Tell Them Apart (Score 1) 466

Yes, I'm lost with just the lingo. "standard container" ? I know what a hash function is, but a "standard hash function" vs a non-standard one? I'm lost. Already. Obivously, I can't fake my way through an interview. I don't have the computer science background, just the ability to hard-code things when necessary (and I took enough CompSci classes to learn what object-oriented programming is, and can write classes and make objects, but that's the most advanced I ever got). I can certainly learn more advanced stuff, if I apply myself, but the question is: will it pay off? or will I be forever chasing something that stays just out of reach?

Comment Re:Age (Score 1) 466

Yes, but I'm talking about STARTING programming at 40, with a resume that shows very little programming background (some embedded microcontroller, some C++ from 10 years ago, some Visual Basic). I'm an excellent engineer, but I can't make heads or tails of a complex Java program. I COULD get good at it if I focused on it (I have the right brain for it), but I have to have some feeling/idea that its the right direction to go. Right now, finding engineering jobs has been all but impossible. I went from having people banging on my door to hire me, to COMPLETE ghost town. I can't even get a phone interview. But if I were a programmer things might be different...

Submission + - What's the minimum computer programming competence in order to get a job?

Wisecat writes: So we all know that computer programming jobs are hot right now. Heck, even President Obama has been urging Americans to learn the skill. But all of us in tech know that not everyone can hack it, and what's more it takes a while to learn anything, and keep up your skills as technology changes.
    Add to that the fact that companies (and their hiring managers) are always looking for "the best of the best of the best" talent, and one starts to wonder: just how good does one actually have to BE to get hired? Certainly, there must be plenty of jobs where a level 7/10 programmer would be plenty good enough, and even some that a level 5/10 would be enough. And perhaps we can agree that a level 2/10 would not likely get hired anywhere.
    So the question is: given that we have such huge demand for programmers, can a level 5, 6, or 7 ever get past the hiring manager? Or is he doomed to sit on the sidelines while the position goes unfilled, or goes to someone willing to lie about their skill level, or perhaps to an H1-B who will work cheaper (but not necessarily better)?

I'm a hardware engineer with embedded software experience, and have considered jumping over to pure software (since there are so many jobs, so much demand) but at age 40, and needing to pick a language and get good at it, I wonder whether it would even be possible to get a job (with my previous work experience not being directly related). Thoughts?

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