Comment Re:Why? (Score 1) 71
China doesn't produce cheap crap. China just produces. The West places orders for cheap crap and then cry about it when something doesn't go quite right.
Oh? Is that why the great capacitor scandal went down in China?
The fact is that China does produce cheap crap. Anything they make "themselves" is a faithful copy of someone else's product, right down to the flaws. That tendency was noted when they first began manufacturing for the rest of us. They were copying machine tools, including the boneheaded mistakes. Problem is, they also use inferior materials for these cheap copies, so they wear rapidly and fail. The only bright spot is that you can use the replacement parts from the original, which are of much higher quality.
As well, people who attempt to have things made in China often find that they come back under spec. Sometimes this is true even in the demo parts, but the quality often slips at a later date and if you're not continually inspecting parts, the quality can go downhill without warning. This is why only big corporations can afford to sell stuff made in China year after year, they can eat the losses and they have learned which suppliers will try to screw them, and how hard. It's also why you pay twice as much for the same shit made in the same place if you buy it off a shelf instead of off of eBay. The product may well be shit, in fact it is highly likely, and the corporation has to handle the cost of processing the returns and landfilling the garbage product.
Can this happen with parts coming out of any nation? Sure. But China is known for it. It's well-known that you can't simply contract them for parts of any complexity and then wait for them to arrive, they will arrive with obvious spec violations and you will pay for the privilege.
The OP's point is that China produces to the quality you specify. If you're willing to pay for it, they can produce very high quality goods (see Apple). If not, they can produce to your price point.
And that includes crap they copy. Because the copied crap must sell for less and most Chinese (who are VERY well versed in basic economics) know that to maximize profits, you minimize cost, means they will cut every corner possible because a penny saved is a penny more in profit.
So no, they're not going to pay for Apple-level quality, or even the cheapest western brand-name level quality. They want even cheaper than that, and basically pay not a penny more.
Of course, the product does often end up as crap because it's shoddily made and barely has more structural integrity than the box it came in.
I mean, if you're willing to buy an Apple for $2000, and it costs Apple say, $1000 to make, if they can make a copy for $200, that's $1800 in pure profit - 80% more than Apple! Of course, there's a reason why Apple spent so much, so your Chinese Apple clone would be a deathtrap. But it'll be made, somehow because hell, if Apple can do it, so can they.
(And you have to know the value system is based on how hard something is to copy. Software is worthless because it's easily copied (open-source even more so, but try getting the source code from them!)), etc.