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Yes, all these linux drop menu's like gnome 2, kde, mate, cinnamon, etc... are all windows 95 clones. Name a OS gui that had this type of start button drop menu before windows 95. and yes I know pre-windows 95 applications themselves had drop menu's but this is about the OS gui itself.

Actually, my desktop is a dual monitor setup and i don't have any problems hitting the corners. I think once you get into a corner the mouse just stops feels like there is a small stub to activate the charm bar or that left side taskbar thing.

Wasn't talking about running the metro apps but the win32 applications in front of the metro.
I know Win32 and WinRT are two seperate api's, one for old desktop applications and other for metro. But I doubt it's hard for win32 applications like firefox, photoshop, visual studio, call of duty, etc.. to open and run in front of the metroUI just like you can use ModernMix to run metro apps on the taskbar ui desktop. Or MS could have found away to wrap the WinRT around the old win32 to open the desktop applications natively in the metro.

Probably windows 9 or 10 will be a full metro WinRT Operating system with no win32 compatibility.

MS could had made metro UI the only and primary UI for windows 8 and rid the taskbar for good, but as usual those fucking idiots do a half ass job. FUCK HEADS. I don't think MS would of had any issue making metroUI open any win32 applications in the foreground. The metro UI left corners operate like a taskbar anyway so what was the point of the taskbar UI. It would of been nice as well to have the user add their own custom title labels for the grouped tiles. Also, tiles showing how many instances of firefox or any application for that matter opened. Why couldn't these shit heads just give the user 3 options; old windows 7 menu UI no metro, taskbar UI and metro, and lastly just metro UI.

In windows 7, I either pinned most used applications to the taskbar, desktop, or rocketdock. Even though you could pin in the windows 7 menu favorites I just never used it. I hate exiting the metro and going back into the old taskbar UI that's pretty much useless to me.

Linux needs to dump all those old 1990's looking DE's and just adopt the metro.

I find windows 8 metro more intuitive, easy to manage, better looking than the old 95/xp/7/kde/xfce/mate/cinnamon/lxde start menus. Hopefully in the future, with windows 9, the metro will replace the old taskbar UI. Anyway, windows 8.1 will let you customize the metro a lot more which is a big plus. But, for now, I barely use the metro except for mail, youtube fm, gmaps, and opening applications that I use but not often like gimp, office 2010, blender, etc... the applications that I use so often are pinned to the taskbar.

Unity is kind of a mess, you still can't pin your programs to the dash like you can on metro. Linux needs to adopt the metro and just dump all those other 95 clone menu's which there are too many of anyway.

The problem with windows 8 is that it did not go all the way and make the Metro the only and primary UI for the OS which means the Metro has to be customizable((((((change background wallpapers, label grouped tiles, sort tiles, scroll vertical as well, change tile icons to any shape or object,etc....)))))), run any type of application and more than 1 instant, of course extend to multiple monitors. Sick of the old taskbar and just want something simple like the Metro but with powerful features at the same time. I mean they are addressing some of the issues with windows 8 which we will see in 8.1, but hopefully the Metro will be the only UI for windows 9.

Sorry, but i'm just sick of looking at and using all these 1990's type 95/xp/7/kde UI's. We are moving towards touch screens and kinect type control which will replace the keyboard and mouse, this will actually help a lot of people who have carpel tunnel syndrome.

Or Microsoft could had just released sp2 for windows 7 and release a full working metro OS for those who want it.

LibreOffice Calc is definitely faster in calculations(900 Columns, 5000 Rows) and uses less ram than office excel 2010/2013 as I tested. But, I prefer the ribbon over the old menu systems and hopefully sometime in the future FOSS will incorporate the ribbon into openoffice or libreoffice. Not really sure who needs to use Excels maximum 16, 384 Columns and 1,048, 576 Rows especially when excel eats ram like it's nothing. It's better to use a relational database instead of excel or access(database corruption). A lot of windows based professional applications seem great until you realize the bloat and stability issues it comes with.

It took me 30 minutes to remove the adobe creative suit 6 trial from my system at the same time it was thrashing my drive that I could not do anything else.

I don't think there will be a windows 9 Per Se, for now on it's nothing but updates(fixes and extra functionality added) every year, although the first update coming this fall or winter will be free, but the next update next year will probably not be free.

I installed and ran classic shell which is free and it's superb if you dig the old 95/xp/7 menu's. I removed it since I'm used to metro.

STFU! already about windows 8 failing for being to complicated or schizophrenic. Same shit was said about 95, xp, 7, etc... I got used to the menu and it does not take more than 4 seconds to click on the windows key and find your app or application icon quickly. Like i mentioned before in other posts it took me 8 minutes to install windows 8 from a usb on my phenom x6 machine and about 40 minutes for installing the vendor proprietary drivers, than applications and apps, and finally windows updates. With windows 7 everything took me nearly 3 hours. If you want the old menu style for crying out loud go and get classical shell which is free and it has the old 95, xp, and 7 menu's to choose from.

fine, don't open source the drivers but at least open up the video card hardware so dev's can write their own drivers. Intel and amd cpu's are open why not gpu's.

Well, what the hell do you expect if the west is occupying the middle east, get the fuck out of there already and let the muslims deal with their own problems. Shit! U.S should give the Israeli's new jersey or hawaii and no more Israel vs Muslim nations. If nothing gets done this west vs middle east thing will never change and we in the north america will always be a target which means u.s citizen will lose more rights in the name of security. Another option, we just nuke the whole middle east including the Israeli's and be done with it. Something has to change drastically.

Either run the software on windows 7 in xp compatibility mode or run the xp in a Virtual Machine like vmware or virtualbox on windows 7 or linux host. At my company, I'm running netware 5.1(old early 1990's 2 custom program no source code that ran on netware 3 but migrated to 5.1 and 6.5) and netware 6.5 both in virtual machines temporarily in opensuse until we migrate the old software data to the new software on windows server 2012. No issues.

What's the Custom Medical Software database back end it's running on or is it a custom one?FoxPro, MS sql, MySql,MS access(hahahaha, can't be this)?????

People have been complaining about new MS OS's releases since windows 95. People just don't like change it's that simple. WTF is so complicated about the new start menu? It's as easy as the old start menu and it should not take you more then 20 minutes to figure out the whole thing(metro, charm bar) if you have been using a computer for the past 5 - 20 years. Why are people saying the metro looks kiddy looking and it does not belong in the corporate business world? does the gui have to look old, bland, shitty looking to meet corporate standards? I guess that's why corporations want employees wearing those damn awful, uncomfortable, penguin suits.

You can always use classical shell which is free and has the old 98, xp, 7 start menu to choose from if you feel metro is too complicated for you. I mentioned before windows 8 is actually faster to install, update, and setup than windows 7. Works nice on my dual screen no issues. The only thing I bitch about is the pricing for a single license and that's it.

People can always stay with windows 7 or even try out linux but be warned that all linux distro's are complicated to deal with if you don't have the right hardware. The open source drivers for ati radeon 6570 does not work for me i get horrible graphical glitches, crashes unless i use nomodeset and install the ati proprietary drivers but in recovery mode which I doubt regular joe knows how to do it.

Thank You. Regardless of religion or political stance people will always murder, rape, terrorize other people. We are a violent race who haven't evolved enough.

Bradley Manning a complete dumbass. Why risk prison or even death? we all know our government is crooked run by corporate puppet whores. We know the past atrocities this government has committed against other nations in the name of freedom and liberation. Regardless of somebody proving u.s government is a genocidal maniac killing for resources nothing will be done, because the people of this country are too weak and too busy playing with their Nintendo to really do anything to stop them. Where is the financial disaster accountability? Iraq invasion accountability? 17 trillion debt accountability? NONE!

I remember a couple of occasions when I had no internet and same time had Hard Drives failure and had to reinstall Windows on a new hd or just do a fresh install(this was windows xp) to get rid of the old bloat. If i were using Linux as my primary OS I would have been screwed since it needs the internet to solve software dependency issues but with windows software it's not an issue since everything is packed into the .exe or .msi.

The windows 8 desktop(charm bar) and metro UI is better than windows 7, xfce, lxde, cinnamon, mate, kde(confusing mess). Unity is pretty damn good as well. Gnome 3 still needs a lot of work. Until we see software applications with all dependencies in .deb & .rpm available, stable, reliable, easy for the average joe to install and use I don't think linux will overtake windows. With shitty and overpriced internet services in the u.s it's going to be a big problem for linux.