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Comment Not quite... (Score 3, Insightful) 122

The find increases the chances that life may exist (or have once existed) on planets such as Mars and moons such as Jupiter's Europa.

So life on other planets is dependent on our knowledge? Sounds doubtful. It may increase our reason to believe that such life is possible, but not whether that life actual exists/existed.

Comment Re:Really that short on page space for the graph? (Score 1) 623

"Since we are all pretty well aware that we are between ice ages it doesn't say much at all and it gives absolutely no indication if the current warming trend is usual or not."

It is guaranteed that the atmosphere is definitely unusual because we have dug up and combusted carbon which was sequestered geologically since long before many many interglacial/ice age cycles.

Perhaps, but you have to infer that, it is NOT contained in the graph. In other words, it might support an argument for anthropogenic global warming but it does nothing to refute my claim that the graph that was supposed to be "in context" certainly wasn't.

Comment Re:Really that short on page space for the graph? (Score 2) 623

I prefer mine with some context. Like this one.

That's pretty poor context. That graph is pure distortion. It's has the time from 1870 to now at one scale and the rest in thousands of years. Moreover, it clearly shows that temperatures have been rising for years before civilization was around and is now at the high point.

Since we are all pretty well aware that we are between ice ages it doesn't say much at all and it gives absolutely no indication if the current warming trend is usual or not.

Comment Re:Yeah! (Score 1) 530

In my experience that's a fallacy. If you say that spewing hate-filled bullshit is "okay" and "harmless", it will catch on.

Dismissing dangerous political ideas as somehow "inherently self-destructing" flies in the face of all experience with human history, which includes a lot of dangerous political ideologies - like Communism and Nazism.

The reason preposterous or dangerous ideologies tend not to catch on in developed societies is because people react to them. If people stop reacting to them, they catch on.

My problem is that it'll be those in authority deciding what is "hate-filled bullshit" and, as has happened again and again in history, ultimately the definition will be "anything that is a threat to my power". Don't forget, "Democracy" was also a "dangerous idea" to governments, especially in 19th century Europe.

Ultimately, while the "will of the people" worries me at times, I'd much rather people be able to express their opinions, even ones I don't favor, than trust the government (or University, or other authority) as to what I can and can not say.

Comment Re:Yeah! (Score 1) 530

Finally there is a large part of the population that research shows find themselves attracted to angry conservative type opinions and actually become MORE attracted to the opinion when evidence of its incorrectness is presented.

It's not just "angry conservative type opinions" but ALL opinions are potentially affected by this form of confirmation bias. Left wing, right wing, social conventions, even food preferences. Here's an excellent book on the subject.

Comment Re:LOL, welcome to united states of hurrdurr (Score 5, Informative) 208

Any land owned by the University system is part of the "campus".

No, son. "Any land owned by the University system" is not considered part of the "campus".

I won't argue what "campus" means but, the bill never mentions "campus". here' the text of the bill:

Senate Bill 367 (P.N. 2349) – This bill establishes the Indigenous Mineral Resource Development Act, allowing the Department of General Services to make and execute contracts or leases for the mining or removal of coal, oil, natural gas, coal bed methane and limestone found in or beneath land owned by the state or state system of higher education.

In other words, the article from Mother Jones was entirely misleading making people think of gas rigs next to dormitories when, in reality, the bill opened up all state lands pending government approval. Typical Mother Jones scare tactics.

Comment Food for thought... (Score 2) 686

The Templeton Foundation that funded this research is often highly criticized for religious bias. It's kind of like oil companies providing money for research. It might be good in that it provides research funding but there's always a worry that the money from an organization with a particular point of view might skew the science.

I'm not saying that this invalidates the research, but it does cast some doubt on it and the reasons it is being done.

Comment Re:Captain Obvious (Score 5, Insightful) 341

It meant abandoning all my mods on this story but this intrigued me and I had to look up it up. In fact, while the number of smokers may have dropped the TAX REVENUES from smokers has been increasing steadily and at pace far faster than inflation. I think that lends some good evidence to sls1j's assertion that taxing pollution will lead to government dependence on that taxation. Obviously smoking and pollution aren't exactly the same but I think there's a good point made there.

Comment Re:Motives (Score 2) 288

There are discoveries made for the sake of discovery and those made for financial gain.

As long as we can support the latter without destroying the former, proceed.

There is ABSOLUTELY no way to tell the difference in most cases. Since "discovery" research is usually funded the researchers have quite a strong vested financial interest in it. Moreover, don't you think GlaxoSmithKline will just classify every scrap of research they possibly can as "for the sake of discovery". It'll be like Hollywood accounting.

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