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Comment Re:depends upon field and career, of course (Score 1) 391

If you are interested in university-centered research in science or engineering as a career, finding someone who is currently there and relatively recently trained is a reasonable plan. Generally people in that position are either swamped with work or they have developed good skills for minimizing distractions from their own work and may not be so interested in helping random strangers, though.

Be careful, a lot of faculty are pompous blowhards whose information and career advice is long out of date if not totally obsolete. A good way to find a successful active researcher in most science and many engineering fields is to look for those with active National Science Foundation grants via http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/tab.do?dispatch=4 the NSF award search page.

Comment Re:I think you missed the point... (Score 1) 391

My own personal experience isn't really relevant and is essentially obsolete, since finances of US higher education have changed a great deal since my experience. I had several generous scholarships and awards, so my undergrad didn't involve debt.

It is good to realize that doctoral programs in science and engineering generally give good support to strong students and generally are at least slight positive cash flow for sensible students.

What is relevant from my experience is that I likely would have still gotten into a strong grad program had I gone to Notable State Flagship University instead of Elite Research University for undergraduate work, and it wouldn't nominally have cost nearly as much. Once in a strong doctoral program, people don't really care too much about where you did you undergraduate as long as you have good preparation and progress well.

Comment depends upon field and career, of course (Score 3, Interesting) 391

There are many factors at work here. The various studies all have flaws as there are many interrelated variables and they are difficult to separate out. There is a complex choice here, and it is never as simple as these studies or stories make it out to be. Some things that are typically omitted:

1) If your undergraduate degree is the last degree you are going to get, the importance of that institution is elevated somewhat.
2) If you plan to get an advanced degree, one main goal of undergraduate education is to increase the likeliehood that you will get into a top graduate program and do well there.
2b) Top graduate programs in science and engineering are much more likely to take strong students from research universities, particularly those undergraduates who already took some graduate-level courses or had specific productive experience with undergraduate research.

Expounding a bit:

1) For careers in finance or management, many strong firms only consider students from very strong universities. If that is your career path, that could be an important criterion. Similarly, if your only degree will be undergraduate in some other field where generally the expectation is just an undergraduate degree, that choice of institution of course matters more. In terms of studies that look at average salary, this effect can dominate others as these are often high-paying fields with great variance in salary.

2) In general, I recommend that good students go to the "best" place that they get into. That is, the most academically rigorous usually works well. Overdoing it can be a problem, if they go to a place where the expectations are simply to high and they struggle and fail. But most commonly, the advantage of going to a strong place is that the other students are also strong, and the professors can then teach at a reasonable level for their audience. That is, often the other students are the limiting factor to the depth of a course's coverage and so you want to be at the best place you can be and still succeed. That is a good route to the preparation needed for doctoral-level courses.

2b) I've had to serve on various doctoral admissions committees, and students from big research universities are much more known quantities. Professors at these institutions have more experience with students continuing on to graduate school (and seeing their own students and other graduate students in their departments) and the students have a pretty good idea of what they are getting into. There have been too many students from small liberal arts colleges, whose letters of recommendation said "this is the best student I've seen in years" who took all the available courses there and excelled grade-wise, but who struggled and turned out to be poorly prepared or just overwhelmed by doctoral level work, or simply didn't really realize what they were getting into. So occassionally there are students from such backgrounds who do OK, but it isn't common and I can't recommend it as a good route to a strong graduate program. It may be the case that their smaller college instructors there are more involved in their teaching, classes are smaller, facilities are better, and they may in fact actually learn more at their institution and be happier there, but that doesn't really carry much weight for eventual graduate study.

FWIW, I went to an elite US research university for my undergraduate, and went to a top US research university for my PhD. I have taught or held research appointments post-Ph.D. in a wide range of institutions, from one of the weaker Ivy League institutions to top tier public research universities to mid-tier public research universities and I have a strong record of research funding as a professor judged primarily on research. People from many backgrounds ask for my advice about university choices in science and engineering as there is a culture of excessive obsession about "the right institution" for their choice.

Comment Re:A bit of work to do first... (Score 1) 349

The quickest way to accomplish good, low-cost journals is by mass resignations of editorial boards from top (expensive) journals and then starting a low-cost alternative. It has happened, under the leadership of giants like Knuth and I am hopeful this becoming more widespread shortly. The current system is not sustainable.

Comment Re:12 years of tenure slavery (Score 1) 349

(1) who wrote it, and (2) who reviewed it.

Actually, for "(1) who wrote it" it should be judged on what is actually in the article, not who wrote it. Though there have been some interesting studies that show that who wrote it is often an overwhelming consideration, particularly for review processes with strong time pressure, like computer science conferences.

And as far as "(2) who reviewed it": most academic journal and conference refereeing is anonymous and unpaid. Referees are asked to comment on the correctness, originality and importance of the work. A less selective journal generally has lower standards and will ask just about anyone who is willing to referee an article, and the level of scrutiny is not as high. Whereas a strong journal is very selective and to get published there, the article needs to be correct, quite novel and important as well. So there can be quite a difference with the existing system from journal to journal.

I'm not saying that it is an optimal system (editorial boards of journals essentially serving as filters and arbiters of quality/significance) but that is the way things typically work in the research areas I publish in regularly.

Comment Re:I wonder how MIT's "Open Journal" handles this (Score 1) 349

Many other researchers adopt a similar policy themselves- post their work on the arxiv preprint server immediately before submitting to a journal. That way at least one version of the paper is available forever for free. I've never heard of a journal (math or CS) that has had any difficulty with that, or even with putting the current version (post-refereeing and revising) on your own web page. But other disciplines, particularly medicine, control things much more tightly and I don't know as much about the standard things there.

Comment Re:Bullshit (Score 1) 349

As far as mathematics research goes, there is a huge range in journal prices depending upon the publisher. Many for-profit publishers (Springer, Elsevier, etc.) charge very high prices for journals, or have comprehensive pricing packages which make it hard to figure out how much a particular journal costs. Many journals are published by non-profit professional societies or universities, and those tend to be much more reasonably priced.

There is an effort to only submit to journals which are reasonably priced- see, for example, the Banff Protocol where prominent researchers state their commitment to only contribute to, serve on editorial boards and referee for reasonable journals. Many of the most prestigious journals are still for-profit and there is of course pressure on untenured people to publish in the best journals they can, but there is a healthy set of more senior people who choose where to submit things incorporating journal expense as a consideration.

Comment Re:this still does not prove p == np (Score 1) 135

Absolutely- the soap film computers are comparable to effective heuristic algorithms for the Steiner tree problem, but they come with no proof that their solution is optimal. And there are examples where they are demonstrably incorrect (suboptimal in total length) some fraction of the time. There are plenty of quick algorithms for problems if you drop the requirement to be correct all of the time!

Nevertheless, playing with soapfilms and pegs can be interesting and a good illustration of some of the subtleties of algorithms. I've seen decent examples in some museum exhibits although usually their explanations are a little off, and I have a pair of plastic plates with some pegs that a student built for me for demonstrating, years ago, which has been a nice thing to have from time to time.

Comment funded by the National Science Foundation (Score 4, Interesting) 268

Here is their grant and proposal abstract from the NSF. It sounds like they did exactly what they'd proposed to do- not every grant meets that metric! Theirs is a 3-year grant for a total of $386927.

There was a cute line in their FAQs:

Q. Were the tests IRB approved?

Yes, they were approved. No SSNs were harmed during the writing of this paper.

Security

Submission + - Secret US List of Civil Nuclear Sites Released (nytimes.com) 1

eldavojohn writes: Someone accidentally released a 266 page report on hundreds of sites in the US for stockpiling and storing hazardous nuclear materials for civilian use. While some ex-officials and experts don't find it to be a serious breach, the Federation of American Scientists are calling it a "a one-stop shop for information on U.S. nuclear programs." The document contains information about Los Alamos, Livermore and Sandia while the opinion seems to be split on whether it's a harmless list or terrorist risk. One thing is for sure, it was taken down after the New York Times inquired to the Government Accountability Office about it.
Math

Submission + - A mathematical solution to political redistricting (sciencenews.org)

An anonymous reader writes: Redistricting is a mess. The power that holds power in the state legislature can rig things so that it can in theory get twice as many congressional seats as their its support would justify. In 2003, Texas Republicans pushed through a redistricting measure that gave them 6 additional seats, and though the Democrats fled the state in an attempt to deny a quorum, they couldn't stop it. The Supreme Court upheld the redistricting, saying they had no way of measuring what is fair. Now a mathematician has come up with a scheme which, he says, would guarantee a fair redistricting process. His techniques are similar to those used to divvy up a cake.
Education

Submission + - A question on Tex/LaTeX.

for_fun writes: "After I read through the thread of "Converting TeX to Microsoft Word?,"
I experience the same pain as the author. I guess the reason that
publishers prefer papers in .doc format is for ease of handling/editing.
We know that most TeX/LaTeX gurus have their own TeX environment. So, it
is difficult for the publisher to handle the tex source files.

                I now face a problem that my publisher would like to accept the LaTeX
source of the paper. However, I have to provide all the related macro
files that are potentially needed for the compilation by the publisher.
Is there a way to de-reference all the user-defined macros used in a
paper and to put all the user-macros-free content in one file? I
searched around for doing the de-referencing, but I could not find a
clue.

                For example, I list one bibtex item here:

                \bibitem{Elson2002-OSDI}
                Jeremy xxxxx, Lewis xxxxx, and Deborah xxxxx.
                \newblock Fine-grained network time .............
                \newblock In {\em \OSDI}, volume~36, \sosposdi{2002}{month} 2002.

                I defined the macro \OSDI and \sosposdi{2002}{month} for convenience.
\OSDI is the name of a conference, and the second macro is the date of
the conference. Doing so helps me to manage the conference information
consistently. What I need to do is to make the macros de-referenced
automatically and to generate one .tex file containing all the
user-macros-free content.

                Can anyone help me? Thanks."

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