The leak says the focus is "casual gamers", which in itself shows they don't understand the market they're targeting. So far, only Nintendo managed to make killer apps for the audience targeted by Natal, and every single time the entire industry laughed at Nintendo for these "poor games" before these games just exploded in sales. So an educated guess would be that MS has no killer app for this thing. We can't be sure of it, but it's likely.
The last foray of MS into this trying to sell games to "casual gamers" was in holidays 2008 IIRC, and it was such a huge failure everybody in the game industry just do as if it never happened.

The big problem is right there. It's overpriced means the price is too high compared to its value. In the entertainment industry, people don't care that the technology is higher grade, as what people give value to, is not technology (as in technology industry), but entertainment, the industry consoles are in. The consumer for entertainment doesn't care about technology, as long as it's good enough.
For this not to be seen as overpriced, the thing need to come with at least 2 perceived killer app games. Technologists and early adopters will flock to it, but the mainstream sales they seem to want for Natal won't come from these people.
A killer app like Wii Fit isn't even at 50 % of Wii sold, and it's already selling at amazing levels. That's the apps Natal needs to succeed, not just say "it has this and that and can do that".

It helps to understand what you're talking about though.
MythTV doesn't support any specific card or stick, the Linux kernel does, and the OS brings in some generic interfaces upon that.
MythTV then uses that.
It helps to read the MythTV documentation when you don't know anything about these, before trying to install such a complex application.
At least it would prevent you from saying stupid things, and direct you to LinuxTV site which lists hardware supported in Linux. I would be surprised your USB stick is not supported for example.

This just proves that using a product for a long time doesn't mean you understand the product or are proficient with it. You clearly have no clue.
These are the same problems I read about when I started installing MythTV, and it was a breeze to install for me, and nothing was a feat about MythTV.
But then again, I'm no ordinary user.

Going on with the nonsense. Like most people that don't know what they are doing but are quick to criticize what they don't understand, you believe configuring all the parts necessary for MythTV to be of any use (disks, TV card, remote, ...) are MythTV itself, which is clearly apparent here.

I agree that MythTV setup (the true one) is far from being user friendly yet, which is a cause of MythTV being a generic product that can be put on most Linux configurations, and offer lots of architectures possibilities.
For now, using external frontends like XBMC is a sure way to lose 3/4 of MythTV features though. But if some user finds it more user friendly, why not.
Not sure it will work with 0.23 though. And sure enough, using XBMC already makes you lose most of 0.22 features.

All this text just to say : "I won't use it, I can't bash it without looking clueless, so I'll troll the product so that I can repel people from even trying it".
For what purpose ? God knows.
If you just need reassuring, lots of MythTV users (including me) are using it for years and it's stable, in the sense that everything I recorded years ago is still available in MythTV, despite several MythTV versions updated already (started with 0.19 through 0.22, sometimes even using SVN versions, and now I'll go to 0.23), and several disk (200 Go to 2 To) and PC (3rd mythbox) changes.

Well I was around at the time, and I used Gnome 1.4 (actually, I still compile it and still uses a few Gnome 1.4 programs to this day, like gcombust).
I'm not surprised by these reactions, but to me, they come from trolls or from people with a very narrow-minded view of the world that basically revolves around american geeks using Gnome. Because Gnome 2.0 actually brought huge improvements for Gnome, at least in presentation. If I have to select two of the most important ones, it has to be i18n/l10n and fonts handling. But actually there are far more improvements than that.
Comparing the usability worldwide of Gnome 2 and TWM, and saying TWM is better, is just plain stupid hyperbole.
I can't believe people are so dense. Sure Gnome 2 came with its loads of bugs, but to say there was little improvements, wow!

So this is due to a very narrow vision of users and the world outside english speaking users then. And blindness too, despite Gnome having improved on usability and disabled people assistance.
The replacing Windows part was always wishful thinking by geeks that don't understand the majority of other people around them, which is perfectly normal, most of us have strong NT personalities, which represent around 10 % of world population.
I argue that big improvements in the 2.4 and 2.6 kernel series (at all levels including audio and video), the Gnome 2 progress, the freedesktop initiative and middleware tools between the kernel and desktop are even bigger improvements than what we saw in those Gnome 1 years.
The experience was smoothed so much that some people don't even see the improvements anymore, despite them being right before their eyes.

Seems like to me you are the only one hung up about these version numbers here, and you seem to care a lot about these version numbers indeed, contradicting your question of "who cares?".
The OP was only stating a possible fact, which seems to irk you to no end.

No!
The GP just summarized some of the disconnected fantasy in which lots of people in the game industry live. That includes journalists, analysts and developers, or other techie people.
Most techie people just lives in another world, and Slashdot is no different. I still remember when the Wii name was unveiled, or people saying Nintendo would be dead after Gamecube.
But in the real world, Nintendo made more profit than Sony in the Gamecube generation. I mean, more profit than Sony that was dominating with its PS2, following its PS1. And Nintendo was making more profit with Gamecube plus its Game Boy line. And people were saying Nintendo would stop making hardware. That's how disconnected to reality people are in this industry.
Nintendo never sell their console at loss, unless they're forced to like with GC, and even then, they never sell it at such a loss that they can never recoup it in a year's time.
Sony is billions of dollars in the red this generation with PS3, as is MS with the XBox line.
This would never happen to Nintendo with its business model. Sega tried the big corporation business model and got destroyed in the process.
So no, Nintendo didn't just "survive", they just did worse than before, but they had enough cash to live confortably at least two more GC like generations.

So this is pretty ridiculous to say. Unless you mean PS2 carried Sony through some dark times ? Nintendo made as much money as Sony and its PS2 with GC + GBA.

Except that your premise is wrong, as Nintendo is not a tech company. Nintendo is an entertainment company. Nintendo doesn't sell technology, they sell fun, technology is just a mean to an end. This huge misunderstanding explains why techies are often terribly wrong when talking about Nintendo.
I'm stil laughing at people that were sure that Nintendo would fail because the Wii wasn't HD, or people that still believe that people buy HDTV because of HD. This makes sense in the technology business, but has no sense in the entertainment one.

Focusing on these weak successes is stupid though. Look where it put Nintendo's competitors: they were being disrupted in plain sight and didn't even notice (nor the army of techies) and are now scrambling and tripping over themselves to copy sth they spit upon publicly for years (motion controls).
You'd better look at Nintendo's track record to see that it's a mistake to believe they're not a competitor.

LOL, some people never learn.

I agree with everything you except the last sentence. I guess more than a million owners of CoD 3 (and 500 000+ owners of CoD:MW Reflex) on Wii beg to differ with what you said.

What you say shows one of two things : you're a casual gamer that never played anything but crap games, or you never played a Wii game.
The Wiimote actually does more than recognise movement, it also know its orientation in 3D space and has a pointer. And most good motion Wii games use that feature: Mario Kart Wii, No More Heroes, Wii Play, all the on rail shooters and FPS, ...
So clearly you are a very bad source of knowledge concerning the Wiimote and what it can do.
And no, you don't have to keep your hand absolutely still, games like Wii Sports, that comes with the console, clearly shows how you have to do it for this not to happen.

The bad news is that you can basically only think of all of the good or even great games on the Wii and then imagine them with HD graphics. Surround sound is just stupid as the Wii already has surround sound, just like Gamecube actually (Dolby Prologic II, which is at least 5.0).
Games can't be done in HD just because people want them. There's a reason why lots of games on the HD consoles are not even in HD resolution (which is minimum 1280x720).
There's a reason why Capcom, who made Resident Evil 4, abandoned Monster Hunter Tri on the PS3 (HD console) to make it on the Wii (SD console), and it was basically cost.
The same reason why Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix game) is only 720p on PS3 and not even HD on XB360, why they removed lots of game features, just to be able to output the game in HD.

RE5 will get motion controls on PS3, so part of your wish is granted anyway. Now we must see if the controls will be as good as those of RE4 on Wii, which seems another can of worms.

But anyway, several games on the Wii were done on it, because they just couldn't work cost wise if they had been made on HD consoles. Capcom lost tons of money with two big flops on HD consoles, Bionic Commando and Dark Void. HD is not the be all end all of games, and companies divisions in video games are struggling right now, and I'm sure it's because of this (the only ones not struggling are the still heavily PC based Activision and Nintendo).

One example of your dream game is No More Heroes. No More Heroes was the biggest success of Grasshoper studio led by Suda 51. It is a Wii game that initially was meant for XB360.
Now, the publisher (not the developer Grasshoper) have made a port with HD graphics, but which removes motion controls, that I think made all the interest of the game. We will see how well or bad it sells on HD consoles.

Clearly this is the problem with the HD consoles, which focus on single player games or online multiplayer games, just like PC games. In fact, most games on these consoles, and most successful ones, are single player or online multiplayer affairs, meaning they are basically PC games. Only the Wii concentrate on console values and has lots of games with local multiplayer.
It's no wonder, because lots of western developers on HD consoles are PC developers migrating en masse to the consoles.

Actually, this is all wrong.
XBox 360 has been available for cheaper than the Wii for more than two years, at least in Europe.
For example, Xbox 360 cheaper RRP is £160, and you can have it easily for £125 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/videogames/676520011/ref=amb_link_84048773_2?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=1SKBT77N19WZRPE9W4AT&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=109912367&pf_rd_i=15826471).

Price is not what made the Wii sell, and in Europe, the XB360 got utterly destroyed by the Wii, even for all these years where the Wii was more expensive.

Console makers do not have the background necessary to make a killer phone.
The truth is that they aren't even in the same business.
Console makers are in the entertainment business, and phone makers are in the communication business. They are not the same at all, and the job that the devices need to do is completely different.
Both dip their toe in other territories, but that's just to attract people that see no immediate value in the main job of their appliances.
Actually, Sony doesn't really understand the job of its handheld consoles, and it's very apparent they're confused, thus why people connect it to fear of iPhones or iPod Touch as gaming devices.
Notice that no one can say the same about Nintendo devices without looking like a fool. Nintendo masters perfectly the job of its devices, like the DS. It's a gaming device, in the entertainment business. Sony doesn't know if its appliances are gaming devices, or movie devices, ... No clear direction.
To make its job correctly, a handheld gaming device need some basic functionality cornered perfectly. One of them is battery life: it needs to be good enough. And the truth is that no gaming device except the Nintendo ones are adequate in just that. Thus why history shows that countless Nintendo competitors failed against the Gameboy, just because it had better battery life. No phone can even provide that, thus why Nintendo is not worried at all.
But Sony, who didn't even respect this simple principle, can be worried.

Some principles necessary for a gaming device to do its job correctly are antagonistic to the ones necessary for a phone, at least for now. Things like robustness, resilience.

So all this talk about iPhone threatening gaming devices is just nonsense, surely put out by Apple viral marketers. They just don't make any sense at all, and it's very apparent that it's PR matter.

Staying locked in your bubble won't allow you to understand where you're wrong.
But it's pretty obvious : "Metacritic", "more powerful and capable competition with better games".
You are stuck in your old values that the Wii is disrupting right since before its launch, and you use Metacritic to confort you, a site that compile reviews from site stuck exactly in these same old values.
Sorry, but the Wii just shattered the record of sales for a console in one month in the USA this december (3.81 millions Wii sold, PS2, previous record owner for home consoles, was at 2.69).
It more than exceeded the sales of PS3 and XB360 combined.