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Comment Re:How long will it take slashdot to spin this? (Score 1) 106

How many posts until someone finds a way to still hate on him, despite the fact that he's done more for the poor than all of us put together?

Are you counting creating poor as doing something for the poor?

His management of the Gates Foundation is not great for the poor. He is maintaining the unaffordable costs of medicines.

Doctors Without Borders criticizes Gates-backed global vaccine strategy

If his intention is to spend his ill-gotten gains to the benefit of humanity, he should put a humanitarian at the helm. Gates was very good at bullying governments and businesses, and illegal attacks on competition to drain the profits from businesses all over the world, but he's no manager.

Comment Re:History is written in the geologic record. (Score 1) 495

Species don't adapt to ice sheets that are a mile thick.

Yes they did. They adapted by migration, generally.

The glaciations are recurring ecological disasters by the standard of global warming alarmists.

I'm not familiar with "global warming alarmists". Could you point me to a link where one calls the reoccurring glaciations ecological disasters?

The reason that glaciations are less disastrous than the current warming, is that the species involved had co-evolved with that climate, the change was a few orders of magnitudes slower than the current warming, and the species involved weren't already under pressure from habitat loss, over exploitation and pollution.

So what? What is your point?

The point is that your claim "There is no "state" to return to" is not really true. The aspect of the climate defined by that atmospheric concentration of greenhouse gasses is a state of the global climate that defines it in many ways. And that state doesn't suit existent species.

Help us? In what way do you imagine the loss of tigers hurts humans?

Loss of an apex predator in particular has a devastating effect on biodiversity. Do you know why dropping biodiversity hurts humans?

They are going away because their ecological niche has been filled by us.

Indeed no. They are suffering habitat loss and having their parts being valuable for TCM in china.

Futhermore, if we really wanted to fill that ecological niche, we could easily do it on human time scales.

How?

Comment Re:left/right apocalypse (Score 1) 495

Almost no one will get tenure these days.

How many is "Almost no one"?

The politics is therefore intense for the limited slots.

If there are almost no slots, then this politics will arise almost never.

And tenure is no sort of guarantee of a job - it only means you can't be fired "at will".

It's meant to be a guarantee against holding unpopular opinions. It means you can't be fired without "just cause". Which means that if you do your teaching and don't commit academic fraud, you do have guarantee of a job.

You bet you need to publish, and bring in those grants

No, that's precisely what you don't have to do.

(And if you think "academic freedom" is common on campus these days, you really haven't been paying attention.)

I think its common and I've been paying some attention. What specifically would I have paid attention to to conclude that academic freedom is rare on campus these days?

Comment Re:History is written in the geologic record. (Score 1) 495

Half the northern hemisphere covered in thick ice sheets was "relaxing"? Are you kidding?

The 10-12 degree temperature drop took that 100,000 years, so ecosystems could migrate at a leisurely pace.
They were like that 100,000 years earlier too, so the species on the planet had co-existed with that climate.

OP: "And won't be nobody to write it by then if mankind loses."

OP is samzenpus.

The way you phrase that just shows that you have no concept of the massive swings in climate the planet has experienced over the past couple of hundred million years. There is no "state" to return to.

The carbon in fossil fuels is from that time. A time of far greater CO2 concentration than the Holocene.

Tiger-like species have evolved many times independently, and they can evolve again, from other felines or other vertebrates.

The species that we lose today are lost with respect to humanity. Cats won't speciate again on human time scales. Depending on the climate in 10 million years, a mammal or reptile might fill that niche, but that won't help Homo sapiens.

Comment Re:Abrupt, but like 100 years abrupt? (Score 2) 132

Historically speaking, were in the "colder than usual" range of the bell curve today, and thats with using ice cores to detect CO2 levels and temperature histories.

*sigh*

Using ice cores, we're much warmer than usual.

Earths temperature isn't stable.

So we should warm the earth much faster than it warms naturally, and upwards from the top of an interglacial when all the existent species on the planet, plus all our infrastructure have never co-existed with the new temperature?

Surely we can do a bit better than "Earth's temperature isn't stable, so everything might be all right". Why don't we use that science thing that has been so good for our species? We can look at what will happen to which species, and what will happen to regional climate under global warming and ocean acidification.

And for all those who argue we are burning too much fossil fuels, those carbon atoms weren't created into existence in the ground as they were today, unless you believe the earth is 6000 years old!

So you're saying that if we return those carbon atoms to the biosphere, then because they were there in the carboniferous era, current species will be all right?

That's a bold and unproven claim that goes against current estimates of extinction risk.

Do you have a little bit more evidence or detail, or (god forbid) a scholarly paper that supports your claim that "because carbon is in the ground it must be safe to burn it"?

Great.

They were a part of the global carbon cycle, and buried during mass extinction events and processes that sequestered them to where they are today.

Not generally, no. The Carboniferous had about 50 million years of build up of wood, because nothing could break down the newly evolved bark. Not a mass extinction event. Just a lot of dead trees lying on the ground. It's not cyclical, and it won't happen again until trees evolve Kevlar coating.

Its not OK to attack the character of an individual when they are skeptical of your conclusions.

How the hell did you get "attack the character of an individual" from the GP post? :

"However, the researchers say that no obvious ocean mechanism is known that would trigger rises of 10 to 15 ppm over a timespan as short as one to two centuries."

We're way, way, way beyond 10 to 15 in 200 years.

There's no attack there. There's the observation that current atmospheric CO2 concentration rise is an order of magnitude faster than rapid increases at the end of the last interglacial.
It didn't mention people, much less attack them. If your income was based on the proportion of climate change denial comments on slashdot, then you might feel personally attacked by it, but that's not the same thing.

As for the problems associated with climate change, it will happen.

It's not a step function. The lower the peak atmospheric CO2 is, the fewer the problems.

Comment Re:History is written in the geologic record. (Score 1) 495

Why are your weasly qualifications ("currently exist") relevant?

Because climate change is going to affect the species that currently exist.

The fact that the we are returning the climate to a state is was a couple of hundred million years ago is bad because the species that exist now aren't the ones that can survive in that climate.

Humans are one of the most adaptable species around.

Yes. That particular mammal is not threatened, and will probably outlast all the others barring Rattus Rattus and Rattus Norvegicus.

Fact is that complex vertebrates have been around for a long time and were doing fine with CO2 concentrations greater than 2000 ppm.

Why are your long extinct vertebrates relevant?

The question is:
Can existent species survive?

Furthermore, in the past 100000 years alone, humans have survived far more devastating climate chnage than any predicted from global warming: the last "ice age" (glacial period).

The current climate change is faster and in the wrong direction to conclude that the end of the last glaciation was "far more devastating climate change". Certainly the long descent into the glaciation wasn't devastating. That took the lions share of the 100,000 years. It was relaxing.

There is simply no plausible way in which climate change could reasonably be claimed to cause human extinction as the OP implied.

OP didn't imply that. The book is written from the perspective of a non-extinct human 300 years after the collapse.

A "drop in genetic diversity" (even if it existed) doesn't mean "absence of internal variation".

Low genetic diversity means low internal variation, because the variation is caused by genetic diversity. (Plus epigenetics also that are also genetically determined for given environmental factors).

The fact that there are no tigers in the ecosystem of my home doesn't mean that tigers have gone extinct.

I didn't say that they had. However the drop of biodiversity in Tigers in the taiga will mean that taiga species vulnerable to the particular genetic configuration of existent taiga Tigers will suffer, and others will be under selection pressure in only one direction from Tigers, and that will tend to reduce their genetic diversity. (And with it their capacity to evolve in response to changing environment, and to speciate).

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