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Comment Re:The problem is the other way round... (Score 2) 962

None of this is at all true. Go look at actual research data on things like how much people interrupt and get interrupted, or how likely people are to react to something someone says.

Most women who are in professional environments have had the experience where they propose a course of action, and people ignore them and keep talking, and then some guy proposes the same exact course of action, and everyone agrees with it, and concludes that the guy had the idea. Watch carefully in meetings and you can see it too. It's sort of magical.

Comment Re:Limited perspective (Score 2) 962

See, you're complaining that they don't know what your experiences are like. But you don't know what theirs are like, and given how you talk about it, you certainly aren't spending time talking to people to learn enough that you could make the comparison.

You know what I rarely come across? Aspiring software engineers, at all, period. I mean, I'm not in college. It doesn't come up.

But given the level of overt hostility women encounter, my first explanation for an apparent shortage of "good female software engineers" would be that the people who would have been good at it left because they wanted to have a job where people didn't habitually harass them.

Comment Re:Just because... (Score 1) 962

Uh.

Actually, it is pretty much the case that women in general are harassed by men.

I'm 42. I've known dozens of women well enough to talk to them about their experiences. I think maybe one or two of them report that harassment stuff like this is fairly rare for them. The rest regard it as pretty ordinary.

Comment Re:Pft (Score 5, Informative) 962

It's actually really easy to check this out, because you can use whatever name you want on the Internet.

Someone decided to prove that women were just whining, recently.

What happened? He lasted two hours. Then he deleted the account, because he couldn't take it. The women I've talked to report that what he encountered is normal for them.

Comment Re:Pft (Score 1) 962

I've been seeing how men treat other men for a very long time now, and it is in general not even remotely similar to the kinds of abuse that the women I know take for granted in gaming communities. Like, for instance, I can post about how I like a game someone else dislikes, or dislike a game they like, and no one who thinks I'm male will threaten to rape me for it.

Comment Re:Such harassment (Score 1) 362

No, see. The concept of "rape culture" doesn't trivialize rape. But I think it's reasonable to refer to cultural norms and behaviors which do in fact seem to promote the idea that rape is an expected or normal thing as "rape culture".

I admit, I was pretty skeptical of this notion for a long time, because it seemed unreasonably extreme. Then I saw news coverage about some people being tried for rape talking about how it was going to be bad for their careers if they got convicted. Then I saw high school athletic coaches saying they were going to educate their boys on, get this, the importance of not filming or talking about it if they sexually assaulted girls.

Now I concede that, yes, there really is a larger-scale problem that is going to have to be addressed. Yes, personal responsibility is a thing, but the fact is, statistics are also a thing, and if doing one thing at a societal level increases the number of rapes, and doing something else lowers the number, doing the former thing and then complaining that it should be all about personal responsibility seems pretty, well, irresponsible.

And while, yes, we can totally continue to meaningfully blame people for their own choices, I think it's pretty reasonable to think that adults going out of their way to tell boys how important it is to avoid getting caught, rather than how important it is not to sexually assault people in the first place, could create in boys the impression that such choices were accepted and respected.

A non-zero number of rapists do not realize that what they did is actually rape. Because they've been told that it's okay for girls to cry, or that girls owe them sex and it's legitimate to push the issue, or whatever else. And yes, people really get told that.

Comment Re:Such harassment (Score 1) 362

Maybe I'm just not inventing the radical motivations from whole cloth so I don't have to think the world needs improving?

It's not at all the case that lumping together disparate severities of things in statistics is saying they're "just as bad". It's just saying that they share a common characteristic which makes it useful to study them together. Since "harassment" as a legal category is a usefully studyable thing, that seems like a reasonable way to frame questions when studying the topic. You could also ask different questions, but I suspect that if the questions were sensical at all, you'd end up with overall similar results regardless of which questions you picked.

Comment Re:Such harassment (Score 3, Insightful) 362

I don't think they think the "trifling" transgressions are "just as bad". I've never heard anyone say, or even suggest, that they are "just as bad".

On the other hand, I've seen very good evidence presented that the "trifling" transgressions tend to correlate strongly with environments in which people are a lot more comfortable pushing things a lot harder. which means that there is at least some reason to believe that they may contribute to an environment where people will think they can get away with rape. That, and "trifling" transgressions can have a significant cumulative effect over time.

Comment Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. (Score 4, Insightful) 238

You're failing to distinguish between anonymity and pseudonymity.

You could argue that "seebs" isn't my "real name", although it's the only name I reliably answer to. But I've got ~30 years of history using this name, and nowhere near as much visible history under the name on my government ID, so this is the one I care about.

Comment Re:They did that now? (Score 2) 238

What they really banned wasn't "names which aren't yours" but "names which don't look like they are real names". There was no effort at all to enforce the accuracy of names unless they thought you were impersonating someone. But if you had a not-very-Western name, well, that was a possible problem. And once you got into the "we don't think that looks like a name" thing, they wanted real documentation of some sort.

I never did find a way to make that happen, but eventually I talked to someone who knew someone who could put me in touch with a guy who could fix my account.

Comment Nothing, really. (Score 2) 509

Seriously, try to imagine describing a lot of the things people do professionally now to someone 30 years ago. Some of them are genuinely incomprehensible. Quite a lot, even.

You can't have a future-proof job. You will have to adapt as the world changes.

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