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Comment Re:its illegal (Score 1) 574

i find it hard to believe so many of you think this is fair or legal or acceptable on any moral, legal, or philosophical basis

Since you seem to not be reading what anyone says, this is the last reply I will make.

I find all sorts of business practices immoral and unacceptable... however no government anyway has passed a law against them.

Being philosophically evil is a standard business practice, and some (such as myself) might argue that capitalism as it exists rewards such evil. But the fact that something is clearly WRONG does not make it ILLEGAL.

Take your hypothetical flour example, there are no Anti-competitive practices described:

He has not colluded with competitors.
He is not preventing entry of anyone into the market.
His supplier is not contractually bound to deal only with him (or even with him at all).
He is doing the opposite of dumping.
His current position seems like a monopoly, but the presence of monopolistic circumstance is not illegal (particularly in short term situations); what is illegal is preventing competition from occurring.

and further more he is not even a monopoly.... Why?
Which governmental body has jurisdiction?
The Country or State? The $5 reseller is not the only person to sell flour within their jurisdiction so he is not engaged in a monopoly.

You have a lot of anger and frustration... this is good.
But only if you do something with it; and it has to be the right thing. Yelling "That's illegal" when something is not illegal is not the right thing.
Either work towards changing "legal" to be more representative of "fair", or educate others.

Before you can do any of this you must educate yourself.

Comment Re:there's a small town in the mountains (Score 1) 574

every sunday a guy shows up with 20 bags of flour. the townspeople line up and buy the flour from the guy, $2/ a bag

one sunday, this asshole shows up really early, buys all 20 bags for $40, turns around and faces the townsfolk and says "ok, that will be $5 a bag from each of you"

understand the illegality yet?

Ummm..... NO.

That is not illegal. Greedy? yes. Unethical? yes. Parasitic? yes. But not illegal, it's not even a monopoly; and as many people are going to observe it is "the American dream" to buy something, do nothing, and double your investment.

What (in theory) is illegal here are potential allegations of impersonation, wire fraud, and unauthorized access.

Now if you have an idea of how to remove parasites from the market place then I'm all ears, but pretending that capitalism is illegal is not the same as fixing capitalism.

p.s. by "fixing capitalism" I mean either: "Making it work for the good of all" or "Cutting it's balls off so it stops breeding".

Comment Re:Corporations need intangible assets? (Score 1) 289

Yeah, like monkeys need pants. Haven't we had enough of you-hide-it-we-find-it accounting? The cost of this work should be realized when the funds are spent, not in some theoretical future when the benefits of FOSS may come back to the roost. Why? Because the primary benefit of FOSS is the avoidance of those costs in the future. To handle it otherwise would be double counting the benefit.

I don't think you are quite grasping the concept of "intangible asset" in this context. It doesn't refer to "financial products" or other forms of speculation on the commodities market.

Intangible assets are intellectual properties; such as trademarks, patents, copyrights, possibly even software licenses. They are intangible because their value cannot be assessed by the paper they are printed on.

Whatever our views of the current IP system, most people would agree that Intangible assets often have a value beyond the actual costs of creation.

Currently a company can claim the same deduction for contributing toward an FOSS as they can for in house software... the wages of their employees.
If FOSS contributions could be treated as an asset donated toward a charitable organization then things like the market value and basis come into play; under very common circumstances these will create a higher deduction.

so, in summary.... if you have problems with corporatism, capitalism, or the legal system; please learn to state it coherently and have some idea what subject is being discussed.

Comment Re:Ramifications (Score 1) 289

Because Christians wanted it.

That's rather inflammatory, don't you think?

Would it not also be true that the majority wanted it, and the democratic process put it into action?

Or are Jews, Muslims, Scientologists, etc are completely opposed to tax breaks? No, no, you're right, it was probably those damn meddling Christians!

I also here that political charities are opposed to tax breaks.

Comment Re:Ramifications (Score 1) 289

What your friend is doing is against the law.

Only actual expenses are deductible, never labor.

See here:
http://www.christianitytoday.com/yc/churchlawtaxupdate/judge_donationsoflabor.html

Which strangely uses the exact example of donating electrical work to a church...

Yes and no...
This article relates to a discussion of translating time and effort into an asset.

Services and Time are not deductible... Assets are.

Think about it this way if you develop some ingenious recording/broadcasting device for your church you can claim your actual expenses as a donation.
However if you create this device and patent it you have now created an asset. If you then donate the patent to your church you are no longer restricted to the same set of expenses.

IRS Pub 526 states:
Patents and Other Intellectual Property

If you donate a patent or other intellectual property to a qualified organization, your deduction is limited to the basis of the property or the fair market value of the property, whichever is less. Intellectual property means any of the following:

        * Patents.
        * Copyrights (other than a copyright described in Internal Revenue Code sections 1221(a)(3) or 1231(b)(1)(C)).
        * Trademarks.
        * Trade names.
        * Trade secrets.
        * Know-how.
        * Software (other than software described in Internal Revenue Code section 197(e)(3)(A)(i)).
        * Other similar property or applications or registrations of such property.

A lot of how this applies to you will depend on whether you are an individual or a corporation (a corporation will have methods of assigning a much higher basis, and of course on the quality of your professional advice.

Comment Re:lol wut? (Score 2, Insightful) 289

The cost estimation is not of itself important, but it is an important means to and end: that commons-based innovation must receive a higher level of official recognition that would set it as an alternative to decision-makers. Ideally, legal and regulatory framework must allow companies participating on commons-based R&D to generate intangible assets for their contribution to successful projects. Otherwise, expenses must have an equitable tax treatment as a donation to social welfare."

Can someone decode this for me?

Do they want to tax companies that sponsor F/OSS development? Or subsidize them? Or do they want the flexibility to do both, and will change their mind depending on which company and which year we're talking about?

Normally, my in-built translation apparatus resolves "Social Welfare" as "unethical extortion of wealth via the threat of state violence". But that's perhaps just my American perspective..

In the US there are several very deeply entrenched political biases against the responsibility of the individual to society... so yes your background influences how you are taking both the words "social" and "welfare".

Try reading it this way instead;
"Developing commons-based software contribute towards improving the standard of living in a very real way. Most tax entities provide for tax deductions of goods and services to charitable organizations. If FOSS development was given the same tax-reducing benefit that donations to religious and political organizations have, this would greatly foster (and to an extent subsidize) corporate interest in creating, contributing, and releasing commons-based software."

If such development contributions can become "intangible assets" (things that have value but not a price tag), then they can be "donated" to a charitable non-profit. The non-profit then assesses a value for the donation, and this amount now becomes tax deductible to the company.

Since this wasn't clear I'm just guessing that "intangible assets", "equitable tax treatment", and "donation" are the real things that you didn't understand... and "social welfare" was just the political trigger that you focused on.
If you genuinely want to learn the complexity of taxes, capitalism, freedom, and responsibility; I'd recommend you change where you get your news from.

p.s. As a personal recommendation; if you're able to disarm your "political triggers" try NPR instead of the usual network ratings whores. You'll learn a lot rather than be told a lot.

Comment Re:I'm tired of this "degrading toward women" crap (Score 1) 492

I personally have no problem with referring to risque-pics as "degrading toward ugly women". ...of course ugly women have as much political power these days as "middle aged white male executives"; so to remain in a position like apple means bowing to the opinions or people who read either "Fortune" or "Sexless Hag" magazine. (maybe both)

Comment Re:Just what modern news needs (Score 2, Funny) 114

Yeah, mine too. My second thought is "Fox news won't get it"

I picture Rupert Murdoch yelling: "Someone hire that camera man for me! He's phenomenal! He gets everything! Stupid CNN doesn't know what they've got, look at the lousy equipment they give him, everything looks like cartoons."

and Glenn Beck shouting: "See! See! They're making this up. How do we known their 'Obama' really exists?"

{ Pardon the double-post, browsing past the first one just looks like I'm saying "dur-hur me too!". I prefer to be seen as in idiot for the proper reasons, not because of the way slashdot blurbs me. }

Comment Re:Just what modern news needs (Score 2, Funny) 114

My first thought was that this is totally unnecessary and sensationalist use of technology. My second thought was that CNN is going to love this.

Yeah, mine too.
My second thought is "Fox news won't get it"

I picture Rupert Murdoch yelling: "Someone hire that camera man for me! He's phenomenal! He gets everything! Stupid CNN doesn't know what they've got, look at the lousy equipment they give him, everything looks like cartoons."

and Glenn Beck shouting: "See! See! They're making this up. How do we known their 'Obama' really exists?"

Comment Re:No (Score 1) 735

"NUMBERED steps ARE meant to be done sequentially. Otherwise they wouldn't be numbered. People who don't get that are part of the problem, not part of the solution."

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I don't think that's at all true. Almost every tests I've ever seen has had numbered questions. If the above were true, then if I had ever skipped over a question, I'd have violated the rule, and gotten no credit for answering later questions. This has never happened during my many years of schooling. So I'd conclude that numbering the questions never implies that they must be done sequentially. It's just a convenient label, so that you can refer to a specific question during discussions.

Numbered DIRECTIONS are different than numbered QUESTIONS.

So in conclusion, numbering (like slashdot comments) is either considered in context OR you're doing it wrong.

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