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Comment I have seen this before... (Score 1) 276

This is exactly what happened to the N-Gage and N-Gage QD. It was getting outsold by so many other phones, so N-Gage 2 was just software for phones. Weird enough, Microsoft is shifting to go software only for phones media devices, like what Nokia did with the N-Gage, and Nokia is supposed to be doing a bunch of W7M phones.

Comment Re:Heh... (Score 1) 323

Remember, we can get clever with this now, like searching for porn through google video and blacklisting youtube. Maybe as I "investigate", I notice some of the sites are just spam, so I can keep blacklisting until I have google as my porn search engine (much better than poguide or something like that)

Comment Re:Sooo... (Score 1) 1118

Wow, it is like talking to a brick wall. If you have a bigger monitor, what are the chances that 32 inch monitor will only support the resolutions of the 15 inch monitor it was upgraded from? Touchscreen vs KB and mouse does not matter. Based on what you just said, you are talking about it like since the screen is bigger, there is more space to touch stuff. Ok, with a bigger monitor, there is more space to move your mouse around. Multi-touch touch screen is the only big difference I can see between a monitor that relies on KB/mouse and touchscreen. Have you ever used anything touch screen? ever? You do realize that your finger essentially acts in a way similar to a mouse click, right?

As for the price drop, smack me in the f'ing face. This hardware is supposed to be obsolete, but it costs more than a Neo Geo. You must have skipped the entire portion I talked about when I talked about a price drop. From 500 to 400 is nothing. Well technically it is $100, but you won't see that.$400 is still a crap load of money. You will think that it is the best price drop since, uh, since the iPhone went from 400 to 300. They dropped the price by 20% and that is it. When you look at any other computer price for obsolete hardware (except for very, very few exceptions), 20% is a laughable price drop. This is not a phone. This is not a game console. This is a computer whether you like it or not. It is a computer that runs a cell phone's OS whether you like it or not (even if it is an upgraded version, it is what it is).

This still leads my point about cell phone marketting valid. Apple is marketting this like companies do cell phones. They are pricing these things slightly more than cell phones, and when newer ones come out, they adjust prices like a cell phone. Like I have said before, this is going to be an issue since with cell phones, your year long contract is up, and you get a discount from at&t to get an iPhone 4 for $99 (retail is alot more, like 300 or 400 or something), so people are ok with going from a 3Gs to a 4. The iPads are getting pushed out in the same fashion, but there is no at&t discount, we pay full retail.

So what does Apple do to make you think it is worth it, charge the same amount for an iPad 2 that they charged for an iPad 1, and drop the iPad 1 down 20%. Can anybody justify upgrading from iPad 1 to iPad 2 within a single year? These are not cell phones.

If Apple is willing to drop the price of the iPad based on just the announcement of the iPad 2, then why the hell was this device not $400 to begin with? They would have gotten the same amount of sales from it. Oh, that's right, because if people are willing to pay that extra $100, why not charge them for it? Come on dude, think about it. The funny thing is that I am not an Apple hater. I use an iPhone and enjoy it. It is simple and it works.

I am sorry, but you are defending an uphill battle here. The changes in the iPad 2 do not signify a good reason to drop another $500. The comparing this to an iPhone is 100% valid because the OS is an upgraded version of the same exact OS that the iPhone uses (and after awhile, they will be using the same OS with just very slight differences). Calling this an iPhone XL is also justified because they use the same OS as previous items. As for people owning an iPhone, an iPod touch and an iPad, please provide names (even if it is a fake name or an online name), because I have a sneaky feeling that your list will only have 1 name in it, and that is MobileTatsu-NJG

Also, again, your truck/sedan argument does not work. If you say "both get you from point A to point B", then I am going to go ahead and include every single motor vehicle that moves on the ground. Every single one. All are valid. You are purposefully vague to help your argument, and I called you on it. The Lancer one works perfect in comparing, because from the outside, they will look exactly the same to many people, but within amount 2 minutes or less of finding out about them, you find out how drastically different they are in the inside.

Comment Re:Sooo... (Score 1) 1118

I have no clue what a flatbe is, and I goofed on that and meant to put in iPhone XL, not iPad XL. My bad on that confusion. Also, ignore the huge touch screen? That is a huge part of it. When items use the same exact OS, consumers will not see a difference. It is like running an older machine with XP and a brand new machine with XP. Unless you know stuff about computers, if these run at the same speed, the user will not know the difference. Let's say that since this newer computer running XP had a bigger monitor (why shouldn't it? It is newer), then we have another awesome comparison. The average user will see it as the same thing, but with a bigger screen. So my point of this is that to normal people who are not trying to get the latest piece of Apple hardware will see it as the same thing, hence the OP's post. You analogy was not very good, so I went in depth with this.

The thing that throws me off is that I bring out stuff about Apple, and I am either marked a troll or flamebait or something (hasn't happened this time yet, which is surprising), but people bash Microsoft all the time.

I am just pointing out that Jobs and Co. are trying to use a cell phone model of pushing products out for computers (yes, I consider a tablet pc a computer even though it is 100% running a phone's operating system). If you look at Asus, ATI, AMD, Intel, the big runners in the PC market, they seem to be doing well, and they don't run like this. Wait for the newest ATI hardware and see if the new stuff from a year ago is still the same exact price. I think the only exception to this rule is the i7 Extreme. That thing has been $999 for awhile, but that is really high end and a rare exception to the rule.

If the iPad 2 comes out and the iPad 1 starts selling for $200 or even $250, then I will stand corrected, but that will not happen. The iPad 2 will come out for a higher price than the iPad 1, and the iPad 1 will continue to sport the $500 price tag.

Comment Re:That is the coolest thing I've seen in years (Score 1) 243

Well as long as they don't ship that box as the outer box, which is super rare. The last Asus MB I got was very well packed. There were dings and dents in the outer shipping box, but the actual box itself was just fine. If you chassis box is messed up, it would be because the place you ordered it from did not ship it out good enough.

Comment Depends on how quiet they stay (Score 1) 232

I truly like the idea of anon, but when they start getting cocky, then I refuse the idea. By cocky, I mean then sending threats out to WBC. Even if WBC had a hand in that threat, they threatened and then took them down. I do not agree with that at all. In that case, it would not be cheer or fear, but shun. Now with HBGary, I would cheer. I have said it before, but if they shut up and just do stuff, I would cheer like crazy for them. The moment they start making threat letters or even making people aware of a target, I shun. I do not fear them (they are not that cocky yet). As long as they stay quiet like some ninjas and just attack, then I would cheer for everything they did.

Comment Re:Sooo... (Score 1) 1118

Your example is not all that great dude. Here is a better example:
The 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer.
It basically has 4 models: ES, OZ Rally, RalliArt, Evolution (yes, the Evos are technically Lancers).

Now, the ES is basically the base model. The OZ Rally is a rally edition with OZ Rally wheels. The RalliArt is another rally edition. The Evolution is their high end edition.

A sedan and a pickup are not similar at all (well, slightly)> I see what you are going for, trying to say they are very different from each other. Well, this is like the 2006 Lancer, where there are incredibly significant differences, but looking at an ES, RalliArt or OZ Rally from the outside, it is very difficult to tell. If I get Altezza tail lights, a RalliArt spoiler and OZ Rally wheels, it will appear to be a messed up hybrid and confuse it even further.

What makes the vehicle example much different than the iOS example is just that, iOS. If I get an iPad 2, and I am just a normal user, not a geek, besides the outer looks (slimmer, liighter) how will I personally be able to tell the different between an iPad 1 and iPad 2? The other thing is that they are all running the same OS. This is the same OS that is also run in the iPod Touch and the iPhones. Sure, you can use the Linux argument, but look at how many different distros are out there. Google is only doing what they see as being successful from what Apple does.

To sit there and deny that the GUI is not the same is silly. Now if you got inside of that same pickup or sedan and the interior appeared to be identical, then yes, argument works. Unless you actually have a real use for an iPad 2 outside of it being slimmer and lighter, you have no purpose getting one. There are, what, 15 million iPads floating around, so those will not be obsolete or thrown to the curb when Jobs & Co. can still get money from them. That means that apps will still be released on it and it will still be useful.

I just have a feeling that Jobs is trying to treat the Apple products like the phone market. See, many people, like myself, have year contracts with phone companies, so once that is up, they can renew the contract and get a discount on a new phone, so why not get a phone with better phone functionalities (like an iPhone 4 or whatever). People have a reason to get a new phone/upgrade a new phone, and many times, it is a "contract is up, get the updated version" and not a "here is a new tablet a year after one we just released and the new one will run everything the old one did and the old one will not be obsolete, but buy it anyway".

See, with computers and computer parts, one part that was brand new a year ago that was selling for $300 I can get today for $100. iPad: same price as it was 1 year ago. You can sell newer computer products if you phase out the old ones, and judging the Apple mindset, that will not happen anytime soon.

In my eyes, this is Apple just getting cocky doing something like this. They will release a newer version of the same exact product that is not a phone, which means you pay full price, a year after their older version, keep the old version the same price without dropping it, and then get rumors started for the iPad 3 (and the iPad 2 is not even out yet). They are trying the cell phone model of business with tablets/pc's.

People are paying full price for this stuff. See, I do not know a single iPhone user that paid full price for their phone (and I know lots of iPhone users). That is a big separating factor between the iPad and the iPhone lines. Not even the Macbooks try something so bold.

When people call these the iPad XL, it is very close to the truth since they both run the iOS and have close to the same functionality (except the part where one natively makes phone calls). Going back to my car example, that would be like calling the ES the Lancer light, calling the OZ Rally and RalliArt the standard models, and calling the Evo the XL. Yeah, that is really not far from the truth.

Sorry, but Jobs and Co. are just trying to get money from people at this point and not trying to deliver quality products (as proven with the fact that if they were about givintg quality products, it would not still cost me $200 or $300 retail for a normal iPhone, not 3G or 3Gs or 4, and the iPad would also drop in price). If they were about delivering high end products and not about money, they would stop caring as much about their older products and drop the prices on them. Instead, they keep them the same price to get money from us.

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