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Comment Re:Silverlight greatness (Score 1) 394

Um... If you think those things can't be done with Flash or HTML5... That's your problem. Don't inflict your lack of creativity and programming ability on us.

That being said, Flash still needs to die in a fire for being the biggest cross-platform security vulnerability on the internet. Given the Silverlight is probably only "safe" due to a low user base... It can jump in the pit too.

Comment Re:Whats the alternative? (Score 3, Informative) 863

Having used a Windows Phone 7, iPhone and Android... I wouldn't call the phone shitty, even if it did flop. From the looks of it, for the mobile platform, Windows 8 is an improvement, rather than a step back, unlike the desktop.

The problem with Windows Phone isn't the OS or the hardware, it's the pathetic PR department of MS, and the preconceptions of users (some of which are very well founded, so it's actually rational for them not to even bother trying).

Comment Re:Whats the alternative? (Score 4, Insightful) 863

True, but MS cannot sustain an 'every other version is a flub' business model. People may stick with 7 like they stuck with XP, but MS will need to fix the UI and quickly.

Hopefully they'll soon realize that the desktop and mobile platforms need different UI models, and start supporting the separate primary interface models...

Comment And... no big loss (Score 4, Interesting) 863

I like some Microsoft products, but honestly, if they ditch Windows, and move their products to .NET... then ensure the .NET platform runs on Apple, Linux and a few other platforms (not terribly hard, since the tech is mostly there anyway), I think they might see some improvement.

TBH... I like what Windows was for a short time, in the 2000-XP era, when most of the security holes had been patched, and 7 is OK... but they are majorly ruining the UI. They are trying to be clever, edgy and push the envelope... but doing so in a manner that copies Apple, and tries to go one step further. So they not only lose the 'clever' appearance, for a copycat appearance, but they are copying some of the worst changes for the desktop environment, that Apple is making.

Then again... except for businesses, and a relatively small number of hobbyists, the desktop will be mostly eliminated in the next 5-10 years. So... Windows dieing on the desktop may not be such a big thing for MS. The people who will keep it, are probably the least likely to use Windows (except businesses). The desktop is for creating, most users are simply are fine with consuming, and they'll move to portable platforms which make that easier. Even the portable platforms are starting to be good with producing - particularly multimedia which doesn't require much typing. MS has the possibility to catch-up on the portable side, but it's isn't likely, even though they have a great mobile product, that market is fairly strongly set with other good/great products, and it will be a hard battle, one MS's prodigally inept PR department can only lose.

Comment Re:Visual Studio (Score 1) 254

yeah, the oogling is obviously a troll. I was more commenting on some of the other things.

As for it being a ported Windows stack - I don't care too much about that, as long as it's done in an efficient manner (and I have to give hats off to the Mono team on that one). If it runs, and runs well on Windows, FreeBSD, Linux and Mac, that's all I care about.

Comment Re:Eclipse (Score 1) 254

Umm... You can do that in Visual Studio also.

My suspicion is it's something slightly more integrated, like you can see with a CLI interpereter in Python or Lisp. Particularly the latter, where you just code, and when you are done, you have have it save the most recent version of ever function into a file.

Comment Re:Visual Studio (Score 1) 254

Heh. That is most certainly not the product most people would go for. And honestly, I'd just as soon go with Professional or Express & use Mercurial to make up the difference.

Ultimate has features you only need if you are in a huge corporation/project setting

A more normal user might go for this ($500)
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Visual-Studio-Pro-2012/dp/B008RW3XIO/ref=sr_1_1?s=software&ie=UTF8&qid=1366038707&sr=1-1&keywords=Visual+Studio+2012

Which, I admit, is a bit high for most, but if you don't need a lot of the code sharing or installer building tools, (and why should you, there's Mercurial for the former, and the latter isn't so hard to roll your own), you can always go for the Express edition, which is free/

Comment Re:Visual Studio (Score 3, Insightful) 254

You must have closed your eyes and plugged your ears at the shotgun. I admit it was pretty gruesome. However, after wards they brought out the chainsaw, boiling acid and a couple of fighter jets for good measure... It was horrible.

The sad thing is... They already did that once before to get to the UI that was in 2010... The UI does seem to be getting worse and worse... Just like with their OS and Office products (and it seems, many others to a lesser degree).

Comment Re:Eclipse (Score 1) 254

OK, in Eclipse, how do I code & run at the same time.

I can alter things in the debugger and push them back to the live application, but I can do that in VS too. This is reading more like Python/Lisp, where you can edit as you run, and (as with some of their IDEs) the code gets saved to source files for later use.

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