Comment Re:real socialism (Score 2) 356
If you want to have honest conversations with people, you need to be clear what you're talking about.
I was not applying some sort of rhetorical strategy. What anon was alleging is that you cannot have any meaningful conversation with some progressives because they try to mislead people, and that they do not tell the whole story. I was merely bringing up the reality that no one wants to have an honest conversation. Further: It's misleading statements like that that turn off moderates (who can easily google the federal budget) from believing in the good intentions of us on the left. I would assert that neither side has "good intentions" but merely their own interests at heart. Each side sort of has to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda and hope that the way they frame things wins out.
Imagine if a (real not Koch-brothers-fake) community action group approached regulars on the street with a whitepaper and said: Here in these 50 pages we outline the background behind Social Security and provide statistics that reinforce our belief that everyone needs to contribute 37% more. What would those people do?