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Submission + - SPAM: Now Embraced by Mark Zuckerberg, Work From Home Was a Facebook No-No 2 Years Ago

theodp writes: "We're going to be the most forward-leaning company on remote work at our scale," boasted CEO Mark Zuckerberg as Facebook announced this week that it would begin allowing most of its employees to request a permanent change in their jobs to let them work remotely. Zuck and Facebook weren't always so forward-leaning on work from home, notes the WaPo's Nitasha Tiku, who asked on Twitter: "Remember the Facebook data scientist who had to quit to take care of her kid because FB wouldn't let her wfh?" Tiku is referring to Eliza Khuner, who described in a Sept. 2018 Wired op-ed that her request to work from home was first denied by HR and then publicly shot down by Zuckerberg and COO Sheryl Sandberg. Khuner wrote:

That Friday at the weekly Q&A for Facebook staff, I stood before Mark Zuckerberg, my baby sleeping on my chest, and challenged him to do better. "I see the posters here every day that say ‘What would you do if you weren’t afraid?’" I said. "I want to know: Would you give us part-time, work-from-home, and extended leave options right now, not later; would you lead this company and the US in supporting working parents; would you give us the chance to show you how kick-ass and loyal we can be with fewer hours at the desk, if you weren’t afraid?” Zuckerberg said he was sorry I was leaving, but echoed [Lean In author] Sheryl. He said he’d like to offer more options for parents, but the trade-offs in serving the greater community were too great. Maybe later.

Khuner concluded, "I told Facebook when they make that change, they know where to find me." So, can Khuner and Facebook live happily ever after together now?

Comment Re:I have no sympathy (Score 1) 353

You'd be surprised how far they go to really minimize "time spent on the job". We had to get special language put in our contract requiring our employer to make us eligible for FMLA because by their definition of "time at work", we did not meet the 1,250 hours that would otherwise require them to offer it.

Comment Re:You're wrong on all counts. (Score 1) 353

Airline pilots *ARE* hourly workers. If you know so much about how my contract is negotiated you should have taken a moment to actually read it.

I'll give you the comparison on time on job related duties though, we don't spend 40 hours at work a week. We tend to spend 48-60 hours "on duty" a week being paid a maximum of around 30 hours (pay time and duty time tends to be a 1:2 ratio) and may only be home 2 nights a week sometimes.

I don't need to negotiate by the hour pay, I already have it. I just don't get paid for all of the hours I am actually working.

Comment Re:I have no sympathy (Score 2) 353

My citation is the contract governing how I am paid. Pay time begins when all exterior doors are closed and the parking brake is released. Pay time ends when the first exterior door is opened (our contract says the it should only be the main cabin door, but in reality the clock stops as soon as the rampers pop the bag door).

And yes, pay is by the hour. The excuse of the airlines pushing for these pay rules is that our hourly rate is high enough that it covers all of that stuff too. They'd be happy to switch to pay by the duty day if we in turn halved our hourly rates. Just to put it in perspective, On a busy day I may be on duty 12-16 hours and only paid for 6-8 hours. The shortest possible duty day is a single flight day which will have a minimum of 1:00 of time I am "on duty" but not being paid, and that does not include getting through TSA which I am supposed to do before my duty day starts.

Comment I have no sympathy (Score 2, Interesting) 353

No sympathy whatsoever.

As an airline pilot I do not get paid while I wait in line and am checked by the TSA. I do not get paid while I wait in line for customs. I do not get paid while I get the flight paperwork and verify it is safe and legal. I do not get paid while preparing and inspecting the airplane for flight. I do not get paid while I wait for everyone to get on the plane and coordinate with gate, ramp, fuel, maintenance and catering to ensure an on-time departure.

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