so wait, you are unhappy that we can setup our own OS on that thing? And to fix that, you are proposing to *restrict* the software you can run on it so that you can't modify it... that doesn't keep cisco routers from getting owned, or any other proprietary device from getting hacked, as far as i know.

there are litterally millions of home routers that run a "limited set of well documented functions" that are regularly abused for DDOS attacks to a complete port scan of the entire internet. and there are hundreds of people trying to fix those machines in various ways, either by reverse-engineering the hardware and installing free software on it or by just fixing the proprietary crap that's shipped with those. at least this machine starts on the right foot: it ships with free software and allows you to run your own.

any machine comes with its own foot shooting device, whether it is its openness or the false feeling of security that it's fine black box that will never fail and never need to be upgraded.

not understanding and not being able to fix a device isn't a advantage in security, i thought we agreed on that...

so maybe it's just google profiling me, but "tmux versus screen" doesn't yield any interesting results.

in fact, it lead me back here.

what *are* the so great things about tmux that should make me give up a ~20 year old habit?

Here's a communique from SaravÃ:

https://www.sarava.org/en/node...

i see the cool hyperkitty demo at fedora, but what about postorious? what does it look like?

it would be great if the overly confusing interface of mailman would be simplified...

Actually, that last part (politicians were systematically spied on and investigated) is one of the key plot elements of the novel "The Circle" by Dave Eggers - except everyone is spied on there...

That's why.

My favorite improvements:

* OpenSMTPd - can't have too many solid mail servers out there
* OpenSSH 6.2 - new crypto algorithms and other goodies
* pf improvements - sloppy state tracking for ICMP
* relayd and OpenBGPd improvements

now the question is: how long until those trickle down to sister projects like FreeBSD or Debian/kFreeBSD?

one thing with the recent developments in Debian is that once Wheezy is released, we'll start working hard on the next release, Jessie. And while unstable may finally be unstable for a little while after the release (while people upload a bunch of new packages), I have had a lot of success running wheezy while it was in testing in the last two years. I suggest that people interested in the "latest and greatest" install wheezy, then upgrade to jessie (testing) when it stabilises a bit after the release.

That's what I will do anyways. :)