How does Zope Rate Compared to IIOS and NAS?

CodeShark writes "With all of the current comparisons between IIOP and the NAS Servers out there, I recently saw information on /. regarding the Zope application server. I am wondering about other /. reader's experiencing using this framework in terms of reliability, stability, and ease of use. "

Re:my experiences with Zope

[AMK]

No technology is self-sufficient, and ignoring the entire CORBA/Enterprise Java Beans space was a major mistake.

Zope's predecessors, Principia and Bobo, date back to 1996, long before EJB (or even JavaBeans) existed, so it's not surprised that they're not supported. If anyone actually cares about EJB, I'm sure people will work on bridging to them.

It Depends on the Application

[cjs]

I suspect that which application server you want depends a lot on the application you want to build. I've had a look at Zope, and found it a bit of a pain because the actual development of the web site was too web-oriented. (I want to keep everything in files and keep these under revision control.) As well, it wasn't really optimised for the programming side of building applications.

What works much better for me is Enhydra [enhydra.org], which is very good in terms of developing Java code, and lets you leave plain stuff (html files, images) just as it is.

However, as I said, I suspect which will be better for you depends a lot on what you're trying to build.

cjs

Re:my experiences with Zope

[NoneToBe]

Zope doesn't BUILT-IN support for JavaBeans, however, since Zope is available cross-platform and Python includes support for Corba and COM Zope can access and control EJB using these (if you can stomach using WinJava).

Python itself runs on Java (JPython) and there is a vapourware project underway to allow interaction between Zope and JPython. Also, there are a number of Python/Java connection schemes around. I believe there is one that allows you to subclass from an external JRE.

Hope this clears this up!

Re:my experiences with Zope

[alext]

The big thing about Zope for me is the WebDAV support (which allows anyone in my organization to upload content) and the integrated database (which keeps a fully versioned history of documents and other objects - though you wouldn't want to use it for very volatile info).

We're using Weblogic too, but it would take a lot of work to add these features (no WebDAV yet, though database would probably be Versant).

cheers

alex

Zope

[singletrack]

Zope is about as full featured as you can get. I've been using it daily for a few months and haven't run into any real problems. The biggest plus is how easy it is to configure, use and maintain. Customization and extending its capabilities are fairly simple and easy with Python [python.org]. There are already quite a few add ons for it, even one called Squishdot that mimics the way /. works that is very easy to setup and use. Check out Zope, you won't be disappointed...

Zope Introduction Article

[Cos]

Not really an answer to the question, but it may be of interest to other readers of the thread. We just posted a Zope introduction article at DevShed:

http://www.devshed.com/Server_Side/Z ope/Intro/ [devshed.com]