While it's hard to say where any idea truly began, the GP is correct that members of the clergy did make large contributions to those fields: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...ître Both articles state that these men are largely accepted as the fathers of these theories. I'm not religious, quite the opposite. However, facts are facts and we must give credit where credit is due. I wonder if some of these men would be into religion if they lived in modern times. It seems to me that back in the day the church was a great place for someone into science to get "funded" to do some research. For the cost of performing a few silly rituals, you get room and board with a life of brewing beer and having time to do some research. Just be careful about where and when you publish the results. I'd say sign me up, except for the one other cost - no time with the ladies. That's kind of a deal-breaker. Okay, so it probably wasn't all that great anyway, I'm probably visualizing something from 'Anathem' when it was more like Python's 'Holy Grail'.