That's bullshit. It wasn't stolen. It was lost. He's now trying to cover it up by claiming theft.
Yes, it was stolen. This was covered heavily in previous articles on the 'lost' iPhone. The only way it could be said to not have been stolen was if Gray sold it or voluntarily gave it to the guy.
Taking something that is not yours, whether permanently or just to 'use and return', is the definition of stealing. It doesn't matter if the phone was unattended on a bar room seat, or if it was taken straight out of the guy's pocket.
Theft (by finding or otherwise) is extremely well defined in just about every penal and civil code in every jurisdiction worldwide. I would suggest you read up on your local laws before you decide to walk off with someone else's property and end up being prosecuted for theft.
"But the bike was just sitting abandoned on the side-walk! Finder's keepers losers weepers!" is not a valid legal defence. Nor was it a valid excuse when you were still in kindergarten.
A few rambling points.
FWIW, I did not invoke Al Gore. It is interesting that you bring up industry as a source of funding for skeptical research. The problem with that, going by the leaked CRU emails, the oil industry is in no small part in bed with the AGW crowd and funds a large amount of their research. Makes a certain financial sense because some of the oil companies are in a perfect position to profit from a cap and trade scheme of limiting carbon emissions. Dissenters like Steve McIntyre aren't being funded by anyone, they are just providing valuable corrective analysis to the AGW gone amok crowd. As far as I know, there isn't any greedy industrialist waiting in the wings to pay some scientist to prove that AGW is false.
The real problem with the AGW crowd is the fact that they have done their damnedest to squelch people like McIntyre.
I think recent climate research research papers have significant reduced the severity of the prognostications, but it wasn't just Al Gore claiming the sky was falling. A lot of that was coming from groups like the CRU and the IPCC.
Cultures/religions are against homosexuality for cultural evolution reasons, more or less the same reason why Catholics are against birth control: it is to the advantage of the culture/religious group to have more children (and therefore out-breed competitors), so they hold beliefs that increase the number of children their followers will have.
That's a justification you just pulled out of where the sun don't shine. Don't talk as if it counts as knowledge.
The most famous known case of a society that tolerated or encouraged homosexual behavior is pederasty in ancient Greece. Older men took younger men as lovers, in addition to marrying women. This pattern, BTW, recurs all over the world. The marginalization or acceptance of same-sex relationships is orthogonal to reproduction.
As to the second point, you're presumably not telling us that the Catholic Church adopted their birth-control policies as a calculated move to boost their numbers, but rather, that they have such large numbers because they adopted that policy in the distant past. However, knowledge of effective birth control didn't really exist in Europe until the late 20th century, and Protestant churches used to have similar prohibitions until then. So, your explanation requires us to uncover some sort of pre-20th century church that both allowed its members to practice birth control, and even more, whose members actually knew how to achieve it effectively.
Not to mention that the Catholic Church is historically notorious for having a serious anti-sex attitude and all but telling people not to have sex.
As we move to electric cars and other advances cars will be more like a 80mph laptop.
I had a 565 mph laptop last time I flew cross-country. It worked fine, didn't even jog the DVD in it.
Another computer should have been watching the system and saying...what the hell are we accelerating for anyways.
So they just need to install the backseat driver disk. (Get it? Driver disk? Backseat driver? That's comedy gold, people!)
Why the hell can cars run this fast anyways. Do we really need a car that will run over 90mph for more than a few seconds during a pass.
Are you American? You should have your citizenship revoked immediately. Hell, my state has freeways where the *average* speed is around 85. I'm guessing you live in a cramped, tiny east coast state?
Are we all so brainwashed by action movies we pretend we might need to run away from a maniac we probably couldn't outrun anyways.
We could if our cars could do 90 for more than a few seconds.
Yep, if you are only in it for the money you will not be in it for long no matter what the pay is.
The rest of this is for the folks talking about the abuse that is so often heaped on programmers.
The truth is that people who love to program are the best programmers. These are the folks who can tell a boss to go fuck himself when he demands 40 hours a week of free work over and above the 40 hours of paid work you are already doing. They can do that because, as study after study has shown, good programmers generate 10 to 20 times the usable product that the rest of the crew generates. The good programmers can get paid what they want to get paid even without switching companies. But, you have to be ready to say "Fuck You" to your boss and mean it. Which means you can't be living pay check to pay check...
Good programmers learn new systems on their own time because they love to learn new stuff. The read technical books because they are curious. They may just be crazy enough to do things like code up a mini-interpretor for a language just so they can figure out how it really works. Or code up an algorithm just to see if they can do better than what they saw in a book. A good programmer has programmed in many languages, not just one. A good programmer is the one that the other programmers go to when they can't figure something out. It takes talent, passion, and persistence to become a good programmer. A degree or three helps, but really is not required.
If you are actually valuable to the company they will compensate you based on your value. But, that means you have to be directly involved in developing revenue generating products. Not, doing standard IT crap. You need to be generating stuff that they want to keep as trade secrets or stuff they want to patent. Not just coding updates to the CRM package. You have to be visible and be seen as an asset to the company. You can not just hide in your cube. You have to be able to communicate with people who are not programmers.
But, most importantly, you have to be able to stand up for your self. You have to be able to walk into your bosses office and tell him why you are worth paying more. And, yeah, that means you may have to make a point of ignoring the rule based review process. When you pull of major accomplishment be it a new product or a major save, you need to walk into your bosses office and tell him the dollar value of what you just did. He most likely doesn't care about the technical side, but he sure as hell cares about how much you just made for the company or how much you saved the company.
When you've delivered value significantly higher that your costs you will either get paid very well or you should find another job, After you have another offer that you are happy with tell you boss that you have found another job because your compensation does not match your contribution. Document that my sending your boss a list of the dollars you have made or saved for the company. Offer to stay (if you want to) if they match your pay to your value. (For God's sake never tell them what the other guys have offered! The other guy doesn't really know what you are worth. You are likely worth more to your current company.) If they do not give you the raise you want, you must leave. If you don't you are now, as they say around here, "their bitch".
You can't do this very often. I'd say no more than once ever 4 or 5 years. OTOH, if your compensation starts sliding and your contribution keeps going up (and it will if you are good programmer) then try it again but know they will probably let you take the other job.
So, what did I just say? A good programmer will be paid based on his actual value to the company. But, that will only happen if you grow a pair and demand it. Sometimes you have to make veiled threats and if you do, you have to be willing to follow through.
Here is the last thing, don't be stupid or greedy. If the economy sucks you aren't going to get what you want. Don't ever even hint at doing something illegal. I don't care if you have pictures of the president of the company fucking a sponge in the janitors closet (How did I come up with that image... eeeyuuupchuck) you can post them on the net but don't try to use them. If you wind up quiting don't get mad about it. I once passed up a great offer to stay with a company just because they had pissed me off so badly leading up to it. It wasn't even about salary I was being paid very well and I had received a couple of out of cycle raises. But, I wanted to go back to school so I wanted some flexibility in my schedule so I could take one or two classes a quarter. I tried to negotiate that every way I could and went through three or four iterations of options to meet their objections. When I quite they wound up offering me a lot more that just a flexible schedule to get me to stay. But, By then I was too pissed off to listen to what they were saying. It took me a couple of years, and hearing from folks I knew who still worked their, to figure out that losing me just when they did caused them to miss a couple of major product deliveries. The result was that my whole management chain lost some of their bonus that year and the company lost a lot of money. They really didn't want me to leave or to have anything that would keep me from being completely focused on the product because I knew certain parts of the project better than anyone else and they knew it would cost them if I left.
If they had told me that, and offered me a little extra, I would have happily put off going back to school until the next semester. No problem. But, they preferred to take the chance of pissing me of rather than being honest with me. Dumb asses. OTOH, I traded a part time job as an RA for a full time job as a product developer. The difference in salary over the years I was in college, adjusted for inflation was about $150,000. Who was the dumb ass? The fact is I've never made up the money I lost by going back and getting a MS degree. But, it did get me jobs that were a lot more fun than those open to folks with only a BS. That made it more than worth the cost.
Again you completely ignore every single thing I wrote.
It was read in entirety, but as said I only commented on the parts relevant to the scope of the argument (stable ABI) You are the one that keeps trying to up the scope to the whole "linux is not ready for the desktop" business. I have no interest in changing scope or changing what is being discussed. Perhaps it is my fault for responding to some of the off topic parts.
And funny you should mention FSF, which of course is headed up by RMS, the most left wing radical zealot on the face of the planet. do you know what "PC" he runs? I do, it is a Loongson Netbook, because it is the ONLY machine on the entire planet that will meet his radical idea of "free", why do you people still take advice from that nut?
What makes you think I take advice from him? All I said was a likely course of action from the FSF if something came to pass, which you have to admit given their stances they would likely do. Throughout this conversation you always assume much in certain ways when I have given you little reason to do so.
I already pointed out your putting kernel numbers, which would be like expecting Windows users to know which kernel and patch level their PC was up to, is a complete waste of time, because by the time the device hits market it will already be far out of date.
Here's a thought, say your stable ABI is implemented, you put a linux sticker on, now someone sees this and tries to install it on their ancient 2.6.13 linux install (obviously with no abi support) it has the linux sticker doesn't it? the driver on the disc should work shouldn't it? even in your scenario, a version number would be required.
Also, you mostly missed the point with that especially judging by your "because by the time the device hits market it will already be far out of date." the idea would be to put the kernel version the driver went to mainline in, so you don't need that particular version, that or anything newer would function just fine.
And yes, with vendor support hardware is added to mainline kernel all the time BEFORE the hardware is even released, so when packaging is being made you could know what the minimum version is etc
So I am curious to hear your non ABI solution.
See above, the hardware would show it supported linux and how recent the version has to be for it to work seamlessly.
This would require nothing from the part of developers, all that is needed is a logo and the version number put on the box to hardware that has support. Ironically I have found hardware with such details already, but in the extreme minority. For it to happen the vendor has to have an interest in caring enough to even recognize linux support when it's been made by others etc, so you'll never have logos on all the equipment supported, but you would be guaranteed the items that did worked for that version and later.
Now for the side-track questions..
Now here is a question for you? How much time did you waste researching products before purchase? 5 hours? 6?
I never research before buying, when it comes to motherboard/cpu/videocard/sound... and yes, I haven't had a single piece of software not work for a base computer, could say I'm lucky, but I've went through five very different machines all to the same effect.
And when was the last time you fired up bash...hmmm? Last month? Last week? Today?
I always have four or five terminals open, mostly because I don't close windows for weeks, and that my work is faster with it than a gui, sure I could do without it, but why limit myself and make my day to day activities slower and harder?
such as the Linux user that told me with a straight face I should force Joe and Sally average to "embrace the power!" of CLI. damn, that still cracks me up.
No end user common task has needed the cli for a long time, and as said I choose to use the cli out of efficiency more than anyone else, I'd recommend learning the CLI to an IT person of course, but end users just have no need for it at all and it confuses them.
Deployed linux machines to the elderly a while back, after maybe ten minutes of instruction of basic 'this is a menu' etc they were perfectly fine to learn it themselves, got used to using the internet, email and so on, a week later got my first support call, and it was in fact broken hardware.. silly people covered the exhaust vents and when I arrived was ridiculously hot.
Ironically some of them went and bought their own laptops for mobile use, next support calls were asking if I could put linux on their laptops since they found windows backwards to use and had little functionality, but this is all anecdotal.
But here are some very basic questions you should ask yourself: Why is my product dead last?
Why should I care? I'm here to get a job done and use the best tools available to me, And yes I know the factors involved and to say that you could accurately quantify them is silly, besides, this is about how a stable ABI will magically produce drivers. I clearly avoided talking about larger scope generic things because drivel is easy to come up with, and proving things with linux on the topics you wish to speak of would likely require many man hours, pages of text with citations and I still guarantee you would not be satisfied, because you've sold linux boxes and found it hard.
I would also add that cultural identity is a key element. Neither side wants to lose their culture,
you've hit on THE essential point in this conflict. Israelis adamantly want a state for Jews only, but that has never been the goal of the Palestinians. An ethnically pure state does just doesnt work in this world. The solution is obviously full right of return and full reparations and one democratic state for everybody. And since the dream of eradicating them once and for all isn't going to happen, the One State solution is going to happen as sure as the sun rises.
Maybe this would be a good time to re-arm Japan. They've always been good at taking down China when they've gotten too big for their britches...
China has nukes. Japan is just a little-bit bigger than New Mexico.
I thought everyone knew what happened in 2008. At the 2008 CES dozens of ARM "netbooks" running Linux were displayed and a big hit at the show. They were produced on ARM and Linux because Intel didn't have Atom yet so no cheap x86 processor with any horsepower, and Microsoft charged $89 for XP. The Linux netbook was heavily hyped at CES that year and MS took notice. They went to the netbook makers and asked what they needed to do to make sure every netbook came with windows. The Netbook makers said give us windows for $10 and we won't produce the Linux Netbooks. As a result MS priced windows for netbooks at $8 (ask for a windows refund on a netbook, they will offer $8, this has been documented). Intel at the same time produced the atom because they didn't want mass market ARM netbooks hitting the streets and eroding the x86 monopoly. They were able to produce it so quickly because all they did was basically die shrink the original pentium processor (didn't want it to be fast or it could erode regular notebook sales).
So you ask what killed the Arm Netbook? The answer is the WinTel duopoly got involved and killed it to prevent it from eroding the X86 Windows monopoly. MS and Intel work VERY hard to make sure ARM/Linux Netbooks aren't produced in volume or at prices that will hurt them. Cash incentives, marketing help and all sorts of bad behavior is going on to prevent this market from developing because they KNOW everyone wants a $100 cheap little web tablet/netbook that doesn't weigh much and gets great battery life and that the first one to market will set sales records. Hell the half-assed netbook that has crappy performance set sales records because of price, weight and battery life. The first person to hit good performance, under $200 and with at least 8 hours of battery is going to sell hundreds of millions of them. MS and Intel will do almost anything to make sure that it's not an ARM netbook (MS because the only OS they have that runs on ARM is windowsCE and Mobile, which are both very dated and very crappy compared to Android or Moblin) that's the first one to that goal.
Mark my words, you won't see mass market ARM netbooks produced unless a large government gets involved in an Anti-Trust action against both MS and Intel at the same time.
Well, there you go then. If you work on something that doesn't require massive amounts of horsepower, you could just have your own very portable computer to take wherever you want to go.
Yes, a netbook will be cheaper, more durable, more powerful, etc. But there's a lot of appeal to a flat unit you can use like a clipboard while resting back in your favorite lounge chair or sitting up in bed.
There will be a market for this. I probably won't be part of it, but mostly on price and lack of flexibility.
Exaaactly. This is not a product for a customer base made out of power computer/laptop video-streaming users. It could perfectly appeal, however, to a mass of netbook users who only care about checking e-mails, sending/storing pictures (pretty much the standard user profile in, say, Japan). Reading books and googling things out on it, that's another plus.
I can see a lot of netbook users wanting to get one of these. It would have been perfect for my wife (for whom I got a netbook and loves it), except that with a one-year old baby this iPad thing would be a lot more fragile than the netbook she already has.
The problem with a lot of
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