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Comment I'm quite ignorant of the KKK (Score 1) 2

All I know about them is they hate blacks, Jews, and Catholics (presumably all non-protestants, but as I said, I'm ignorant). What views do they have that aren't hateful? I'm curious.

As to BLM, the entire reason that movement HAD to happen was because there really ARE people who think black lives DON'T matter, including black gangsters and bigoted whites. You have some citation for BLMers advocating hatred or violence?

Like the late humorist Will Rogers said in the 1930s, "all I know is what I read in the papers" and I have a LOT more newspapers available than he did, thanks to the internet.

Comment Re: Pierson's Puppeteers (Score 1) 677

The people on top of the pile now have every reason to preserve the status quo. Of course they want to discourage class warfare -even if they got to the pile by winning it in the past. The problem with class warfare is it never ends -you just end up replacing one set of overlords with another set. Hence why I said the only way to end it is to change the layout so the overlords have only barely more wealth and power than the underdogs - in that layout, they can't abuse their power because there isn't enough of it.
Even then, that state is not inherently stable and must be actively preserved.

Comment Re:Pierson's Puppeteers (Score 1) 677

Okay, move to the more modern world - pretty much since Greek times onward a key aspect of humanity has been that parents shared resources with their children allowing their children to achieve more than they had. This has been the basis of social mobility for most of recorded history. The only times it didn't happen was when class structures were rigidly enforced by law and upward mobility was effectively prevented by the force. Even that wasn't completely effective - in a very real sense the power of the nobility in Europe was broken when the merchants started making more money than them. They simply could not prevent it forever - and where they kept trying, it led to violent revolutions as people were desperate to uplift themselves and their children.

Our ancestors didn't just pass knowledge along, they passed resources along. As far back as the Mesopotamians they would build cities which their descendants would live in (for thousands of years) without having to rebuild them.

The pattern persists - and when the system makes it hard to ensure your children will have a better life than you - you have a recipe for revolution (the US should watch out - 30 years of Reaganomics is turning the US into a prime condition for such an event - the rise of Trump is in many ways the first stirrings of exactly that).

But in this case - we're not talking about conserving resources, we're just talking about not destroying the long-lived resources (like cities) which we've been inheriting for a very long time so our children won't have to rebuild them. It's a lot easier to expand a city over time than to build a new one.

Comment Re:Pierson's Puppeteers (Score 1) 677

Most of them never had any guarantees they would be recorded in history - or that anybody would even know.

In 1773 the ship De Jonge Thomas was sunk in a storm outside Table Bay in Cape Town. A elderly farmer by the name of Wolraad Woltemade jumped on his horse and rode it into the sea and rescued two drowning sailors from the wreck, saving their lives. Then he went right back in and pulled out three more. He did this 7 more times - saving 14 stranger's lives.
He went in an 8th time - once more risking his life - but as he did so the wreck collapsed and no less than six sailors grabbed onto the horse. The horse, already exhausted, could not carry them all and they drowned along with Woltemade.

By all accounts - including what he told people before he went in - he acted out of pity. He had no way of knowing his actions would be remembered. He knew he was risking his life but he also believed he could succeed. Indeed he did, 7 times he succeeded.

Woltemade had no way of knowing he would go down in history, that in fact South Africa's highest civilian honour for heroism would be named after him - an honour which is only given post-mortem for people who died to save strangers. My own uncle was a recipient. He was working at a gas refinery in the 1970's - in appartheid South Africa when a leak sprung in a gas-line. A number of black workers were trapped inside the pipe. He went and pulled three of them out, then he went in again and pulled out more...and kept going until he himself was overwhelmed by the toxic gas and died.
This was a white man - an extremely rightwing one - in appartheid South Africa, who died to save poor black people's lives. Absolutely everything about his culture, upbringing, religion and politics told him that he was the superior human being - yet he died saving them.

To claim that these people - who were overcome with pity at the suffering of strangers and risked their lives fatally to try and save those strangers were acting out of a desire for glory is an insult to their memory.

Perhaps YOU are so big of an asshole that you could never comprehend a truly selfless act - but don't project your mental issues onto the world at last. Almost nobody else on earth is like that. The people who are always claim that everybody else is like that too. The same way rapists tend to think every other guy also does the things they do. Both are simply wrong about that. It's a story told to make themselves feel better about being assholes.

And that is what you call somebody who has no pity for the suffering of any person, even a stranger, an asshole. Not a typical human being. Not a representative sample. An asshole - and luckily, an extremely rare variety of asshole.

Comment Re:Pierson's Puppeteers (Score 1) 677

Actually our paleolithic ancestors *did* get a leg up from their ancestors - they inherrited knowledge and evolutionary traits from them, each generation since has gotten legs up from the ones before.
If that wasn't true we would still be living like our paleolithic ancestors.

Comment Re:Pierson's Puppeteers (Score 1) 677

Except that history is filled with people who sacrifice their lives to save strangers with literally no possibility of reward.

That alone proves this idiotic claim that libertarians so love to be complete and utter poppycock - or, more accurately, a perfect example of projecting. People with no sense of empathy, sympathy or humanity generally find it impossible to conceive that anybody else may not share that nature. They certainly don't realize that they are a tiny minority and in fact almost nobody thinks like them. The rest of us refer to thinking like you described as anti-social personality disorder (or in the vernacular: being a psychopath).

Comment Re:Pierson's Puppeteers (Score 1) 677

When the CO2 was that high - the sun was also quite a lot colder than it is now. But don't let inconvenient facts get in the way.

Anyway, past climates are meaningless. Life can survive in any climate - but no particular species may be able to. Life will survive global warming - but that, by no means, guarantee that life will include humans.

Comment Re:Pierson's Puppeteers (Score 1) 677

Are you happy with the amount of refugees flooding Europe and the USA right now ?
How happy will you be when there are ten million times as many ?

There may be some positive effects in some areas - but change is disruptive, disruption tends to cause violence and death - lots of it, before we settle into a new normal. History is pretty clear on that point.
Plenty of people will be displaced by hunger, thirst and warfare from others equally desperate to control suddenly scarce resources.

Anywhere that has a positive effect will be overwhelmed with refugees desperately fleeing the places that weren't so well off.

In the meantime - we're in for a new age of plagues. Zika is a serious threat to the USA right now - and that's mild, more warmth means greater teritory for plague-carrying insects like mosquitos, that one at least - the rich world won't get to escape.

You're just plain wrong that 'nobody' talks about the positive effects, hell deniers bring them up whenever they run out of ways to deny and everybody else knows about them, but you have to be seriously insane to think they come anywhere close to outweighing the negatives. They don't, not by many orders of magnitude.

You're like the guy drowning in a flood saying "well, at least my roses got watered".

Comment Re: Pierson's Puppeteers (Score 1) 677

Class Warfare is not a bad thing - and the war is ongoing because it hasn't been won yet.

If you want peace between classes, you have to reduce the differences between them sufficiently to make it impossible for the upper classes to abuse and exploit the lower ones. Only then will the lower ones have nothing to retaliate against.

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