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Comment Re: Hipsters fight over limited supplies of juice (Score 1) 554

If they were saving the environment, they would be riding a bicycle. However, even that would be moot if they opted for a hamburger at lunch. People seem to have no sense of the relative impact of their actions on the environment. It's obnoxious to talk big about such things.

Comment Re: c'mon (Score 1) 306

I think part of the frustration among MRAs (disclaimer, I don't label myself as such) is that the rising suicide rate in men seems to be related to the changing role of men in society (largely driven by a push for equality). Given that fact, it is frustrating that the justification for moving mountains to protect women's psyches is that a couple of girls killed themselves. This is especially frustrating when another major cause of rising suicide rates in men is a general disregard for their emotional well being. Maybe it is time to go find out what is driving men to depression and suicide at alarmingly increasing rates? It's fine if y'all would rather keep on white knighting instead. I guess the boys should just man up, right?

Comment Re: Some people never learn. (Score 1) 329

Right. Since that choice has been made, I look at the poor blokes and I don't begrudge them their mortgage. I'd rather be in suffocating debt than get eaten in the concrete jungle. Ideally the people complaining about the economic consequences of subsidizing the debt would come up with a better substitute than 'let them die and imprison their children.' For now, that's all I'm hearing from the 'fiscal conservatives' on this side of the pond.

Incidentally, if loaning money that is unlikely to be paid back is really a bad idea someone ought to talk to the folks buying up those t-bills.

Comment Re: Some people never learn. (Score 1) 329

You have a very suburban mentality about all of this. 'A little hard work' doesn't do the trick for everybody. That's a myth. Where can you purchase a $2000 property while living without your own transportation and find steady paying work? Now pretend you don't know how to program computers and do the math again. You simply aren't allowing in your world view room for someone who just CAN'T. Refusing to believe they exist won't make them go away.

Comment Re: Some people never learn. (Score 1) 329

You didn't answer my question. What are the borrowers supposed to do? They've been priced out of the economy. They cannot compete. The debt model was a compromise welfare scheme. The thought was, with some skin in the game at least people might try and get on their feet. Else, can we go back the more hayekian 'just give them the money?' Otherwise, someone needs to foot the bill to clean up their carcasses.

Comment Re: I'm sick of this thread and sick of all of yo (Score 1) 330

I'd add that I actually personally like both the anchors, Peter Dayan (modeler) and Read Montague (imager). Given that Dayan stamped his name on the math, I'm sure it is fine. That said... I can imagine the laugh they had at SfN when they decided to run this study. It's click bait. Someone was going to do it. Why not be the ones getting the press?

Comment Re: I'm sick of this thread and sick of all of yo (Score 1) 330

First, I'd contest your claim that fMRI experiments are inexpensive. For any new faculty working with a magnet, hours on the magnet is almost always a point of negotiation. Typically the facility charges substantial fees to recoup costs associated with purchasing and maintaining the magnet. Bills as high as 10,000 a hour are not unheard of. I've seen them myself, and they were not surprising to seasoned MRI researchers. When there is clinical use of the magnet, often times the cost of operation is passed on to patients. True. However most researchers much prefer dedicated research magnets for obvious logistical reasons (like not running subjects at night).

This may build on existing literature. Skin conductance, and startle responses seem more valuable frankly. I'm not sure what this adds. Either way, I'm not sure where the value in predicting political ideology comes from. Maybe we could lesion some folks to do some social engineering?

Third... Yes I meant what I said. I really think we have no idea what regions outside sensory and motor cortical areas are doing. Hell, we don't even fully know what the retina is doing. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. For example, memories are stored all over your brain in every synapse. What would you call the "memory" area? My problem with "middleware" research is that it is all very dependent on the definitions of your terms. For example... What makes an image pleasant as opposed to neutral? People have agreed upon data sets and so forth, but that's just like standard social psychology. Using correlations with old surveys to validate your new surveys. Around and around we go. There are things you can do, but it all depends on how much squish you're comfortable with. I'm not comfortable spending lots of money on lots of squish. Fmri is a bubble that needs to pop. In the last round of cuts they gutted pure behavior (entire study sections at the nih) in favor of few more pretty pictures. That's a travesty. Don't even get me started on the genetic lines of mice for studying "vision." Stupid things can't even see.

Comment Re: I'm sick of this thread and sick of all of yo (Score 1) 330

Suppose they had found a result for pleasant images. That's what the paper would have been about. I already mentioned that they "probably" cross validated (see my replies to other replies). I'm being a little harsh, only because of the extraordinary expense necessary to run the study. Even if the results generalize in the way that they claim, the study is of limited scientific utility. It's fluff meant to generate clicks. We can't get at circuits. They have no mechanistic model. This kind of work doesn't really buy us much. It certainly isn't particularly "interesting science." If you had the effect behaviorally that might be more interesting. Then you could at least inform the pollsters. Those of us serious about understanding the brain tend to stick close to a sensory input or a motor output. At least responses in those areas are closely related in predictable ways to objectively measurable phenomena. These guys are kinda all "let's jump in the middle and see what happens." It leaves you with no valid basis for generating a hypothesis. You can spin your results however you choose. For all we know democrats get laid more and that explains the difference in responses.

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