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Comment Re:EC will punish US Teachers (Score 1) 181

Wait.... are you saying that if the EU demands back money from illegal tax breaks, it will be Californian teacher's money? So those teachers were actually profiting from tax fraud? Well, then they should be glad that they only have to pay back tose illegal profits and not also face criminal prosecution.

Comment Re:If you're using Excel you're doing it wrong (Score 1) 348

98% of the Excel usage I've seen in in appropriate.

But for 98% of THAT, the "appropriate" tool would have been a database.

Which usually requires a dedicated database server (we DO want to do it right after all this time), a DBMS including team for operating and maintanance, complete knowledge of the database design beforehand (in research?) and admin resources to set up the database.

So we blew out thousands of $ and haven't stored a single line of data yet. But at least we did it right.

And we still don't have a useable frontend for data entry and reporting, and can't send out the data to a reviewer in a different organisation in a file they can open as they would an Excel file

All in all, doing things the the "appropriate" way is wishful thinking. So people are going for 2nd best alternative to a proper database, but Access is not installed for various reasons. And that's why they end up with Excel. sad, but nothing you can blame the user for.

Comment Re:Shitty autocorrect in shitty programm ... (Score 1) 348

A software that tries to think for me without communicating this, that tries to babysit me (remember Clippy?) is bound to be somewhere between extremely annoying and dangerous, depending on the situation you want to use it in.

"Hello! It seems you just imported a long list of names, but some dates and a few numbers slipped into what otherwise seems to be text." Would haven be the kind of "babysitting" that told the user that some values showed an "anomaly" (compared to the others) and would either prevent mistakes (table header slipped into data rows) or reminded the user to set the data type for a column.

Comment Re:Absolutely not limited to scientific publicatio (Score 1) 348

then you only need a way to attach that database to that email with the excel file, too....

But yes, that would be the proper way. But we would still need a lightweight database-as-simple-document format. Heck, that even COULD BE Excel with a special type of data-worksheets in a document that enforce data structure and do not allow formatting. For all teh use cases where you don't need the performance or multi-user or transactions/data integrity/replication of an actual database server.

The task of mailing out a file with database-data should be much simpler.

Comment Re:Not strictly Excel's fault (Score 1) 348

1b) Lack of a appropriate tool to wrap up stuff that should be in a database (or has been extracted from a database) for display and distribution.

There is a reason why people the spreadsheet-hammer - it is still better suited than the word processor screwdriver or the plain text chainsaw., or the pdf/png belt sander.

Comment Re:It was user error, not a spreadsheet problem .. (Score 1) 348

Here is why for those without the background.
Typed variables in a database completely eliminate this issue.

If the users had used a database, even one of the MS ones (one of which newbies can deal with within a week), that would have solved it which was the poster above's point that you were unable to grasp

And how would that helped when publishers requested their supplementary data in Excel format?

They are scientists and more likely than not the did use some tools for scientific number crunching ("R") or similar that kept and processed data in typed variables or even kept the raw data in an actual database. But you can't ship your Oracle server to reviewers by email and in lack of a document-like database format, peope are turning to Excel.

Comment Re:Wait, what? (Score 1) 348

I don't know how much number crunching was actually involved here. I suspect the problem comes from using a spreadsheet as a database.

Because databases are, you know, hard.

Yeah. Great.

But WHY are they so hard? Because usually, a "database" is something that is installed and stored on a network server and you can't mail a network server to your colleague, costumer or publisher. So even if you KNOW that a database would be the right tool for the job at hand, you end up with your data in a spreadsheet. Either to send it to someone or by receiving it from someone else.

The only alternative that would offer searching, filtering, sorting (in general: querying) features that you need to work with raw data (or even long lists) would be Access. I never understood why the wool that made using databases where it made sense to use them as easy as working with a doc file has been so frowned upon by the same "experts" that now complain that users use the next best thing instead: Excel.

Comment Re:Pet Rock (Score 1) 194

That's the problem: PG isn't very fun.

It CAN'T BE fun!

It it was fun, people would actually play it to progress instead of buying pokeballs from the shop.

Now, tor a game to be successful, it has to be some boring grind that people would want to pay for to avoid.....

And that's why we can't have nice things.

Comment Re:Why do people still go there? (Score 1) 348

Why do people still travel to the US? I haven't visited the country since they started treating visitors like criminals and I refuse any business travel towards the US. Sure, it may not always be avoidable for everyone, but if tourists simply stop coming, they will have to start treating their guests more normally at some point.

Sucks to be Hawaii, but for the rest of the states, how much money do they make from tourism? Would that be a noteable dent in USA GDP?

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