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Comment Re:Slashdot just jumped the shark (Score 2) 162

My favorite part about this post was how you derisively call people hipsters then immediately drop this gem:

...and have installed linux on their old dilapidated computer (and, quickly finding they couldn't do anything with it without RTFM, gave up...

That's some crazy cognitive dissonance there. Yeah, how dare people try to use/learn something different in a safe environment rather than subject their main box to the possibility of data loss over something they may well not find any practical use for. How dare they give up when they find almost every resource available on the internet is about as 'friendly' as you are! That attitude is EXACTLY why Linux on the Desktop will never truly go anywhere meaningful as people will perceive all Linux users as unnecessarily hostile dorks who are more interested in perpetuating their circlejerk than actually helping people learn. This comment in general is worse yet, because you're actually giving people shit for trying to teach THEMSELVES something. Then, when they run into a manpage that may as well be written in another language, they ask for help and they get a snide response. You are what's wrong with Slashdot. The fact you actually care about your fucking nerd-point count (karma) is telling enough as to what you're really here for.

Comment Re:Debian (Score 1) 6

Submitter here. Remember that this is a question about an environment for a non-technically inclined person. Maybe as a qualifier, I should've said I have limited time to set this up for her, but I did say that I was comparing them based on the out-of-the-box experience.

So, to answer your question, Mint (and any out-of-the-box-ready desktop distribution) buys you the convenience of your computer 'just working' after OS installation. No drivers to install, no kernel rebuilding, no extra software to worry about (both Mint and its parent, Ubuntu, come with an office suite and almost every common utility a casual web user would ever need) - nothing. Install and go.

"Debian is a real PIA about binary kernel ethernet drivers." is an immediate deal killer there for just straight Debian. That's more work than I should have to put in for a machine that's more or less just going to be used as an appliance rather than a workstation.


Submission + - Ask Slashdot: Is there honestly a reason to use Ubuntu anymore? 6

Trilkin writes: I recently installed Linux Mint on my (non-technically savvy) grandmother's netbook and she's responded very well to it. I'm considering doing the same for her desktop, but my question is this: being that Mint is a fork of Ubuntu, is there any real compelling reason to actually use Ubuntu anymore? It seems so much more bloated. I'm aware that, under the surface, it's basically just a fork of Debian and Linux overall is a OS that can be tinkered with to be the exact environment you need. As an out-of-the-box desktop distribution, though, from my own testing, Ubuntu seems to be the weaker of the two thanks to its continuously growing amount of bloat in order to push its paid-for services. Is there really any real reason to use it over Mint? Outside of the paid-for services, is there anything it offers out of the box that Mint simply doesn't?

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