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Comment sometimes public policy matters.... (Score 4, Insightful) 109

Do you really think I'd take a stand like this for Microsoft or Google or any other company? I'm trying to have a more serious discussion before we spend $300M on a state owned and operated data center with a weak business case behind it on the Capitol Campus when we're so broke we're closing group foster homes. And I'm not suggesting we send all the data to the cloud, just look at a more strategic technology plan that uses it when/if appropriate. Doesn't take away or discount the legitimate privacy/security issues to raise other options. Reuven Carlyle

Comment hey folks, I'm just sayin'..... (Score 2, Informative) 109

Ok, I'm not pretending the 'cloud' is the sole answer or even that there aren't legitimate privacy/security concerns about citizen data; I'm just making the case that: 1. the state's business case dismisses the entire cloud without any real analysis of where it may or may not be appropriate; 2. the $1,200 per sq/foot cost for state data center is probably closer to $2,000 in reality; 3. the $300M is for the data center 'shell' and doesn't include anything to fix old Cobalt databases, buy or build new applications, create an XML or other neutral interface to access trapped data, get our hands on real enterprise applications; 4. even if we want to have a state owned and operated facility, does it make sense to build in Olympia where labor, energy, building, etc. costs are all higher than in Eastern Washington? 5. if we had a fraction of the $300M to buy and build very cool customer oriented applications and services, we'd be the top state in the nation for on line service, but this data center is taking every penny we have for capital infrastructure for technology. Period. 6. as for comments above about audits--I'm all for it. I agree there are legitimate issues (privacy, security, audits, etc.) but come on, at least we should design a 21st Century strategy for a new approach to services instead of automatically assuming the only answer is a state owned and operated facility. I acknowledge that I'm more interested in front end citizen/consumer applications than back end infrastructure....but at least I admit it. I don't have all the answers, of course, just trying to raise some questions before $300M of the public's money is spent. Reuven Carlyle State Representative Washington State House of Representatives--36th District www.reuvencarlyle36.com
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Could the Cloud Derail a $300 Million Data Center? 109

1sockchuck writes "The cloud computing debate has come into focus for taxpayers in Washington state, where a proposed $300 million project to build a data center in Olympia for the state's IT operations is coming under scrutiny. Two legislators are urging the state to shift applications to the cloud instead, noting that two of the largest cloud computing providers (Microsoft and Amazon) are based in the state. The critics say the data center project is driven by an interest in local construction and 'fails to seriously explore the larger strategic question facing government technology today.'"

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