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Comment Re:Init alternatives (Score 1) 279

In my experience, Slackware is a lot (very noticeably) faster than Fedora on the same HW. I don't know whether it is due to systemd or SELinux or something else entirely, but if you need raw speed, then you seriously should consider going back to basics.

Fedora would have been well served by following Debian's DashAsBinSh project back in the day. Post-kernel boot times might have been cut by up to a half or so, thus dulling the argument for systemd to begin with.

Comment Re:Init alternatives (Score 1) 279

It isn't so much that "old is bad" as that the new is more likely to have been designed with modern paradigms in mind. Despite your dismissal, parallelism in particular is important, especially as Linux has taken a role as the embedded OS of choice for smart devices and cheap laptops.

Linux was succeeding quite well in the non-RTOS embedded space and with cheap hardware long before systemd came around. And an embedded device (aka, an appliance) is precisely where you want the MOST deterministic functioning. You don't just randomly through a bunch of parallelized shit in there and hope systemd all figures it out for you.

The fact remains that the previous init harness was perfectly reasonable. People that needed service management, socket launching, and other functions had options in daemontools, inetd/xinetd, runit, and myriad other tools out there, while rc (on BSD) or the chkconfig-controlled symlinks in rc.d gave structured sanity to the set of deterministic instructions a machine needed at boot.

Systemd's writers forcefully shoved all that aside in favor of a one-size-fits-all strategy that people had to accept whether they liked it or not, and once it was in place, they did everything they could to burn the bridges back to other paradigms.

Comment Re:Based Gentoo (Score 1) 279

yay gentoo! Its very easy to avoid that systemd garbage. I'm not just bandwagoning here, I have to setup RHEL7 for a very large company because they wanted to stay with RedHat. It was hell on wheels. RHEL7.1 was a slight improvement but still not enough to ever consider it again.

I would kill for a systemd-free rebuild of RHEL, but it doesn't seem like there's enough of a push to be able to make it happen with some sort of plausible enterprise ability. It wouldn't be that hard -- basically take RHEL7 and stick RHEL6's initscripts and startup system onto it -- but it wouldn't be "EL7", which is important.

A systemd-free version of Fedora is tricker, if only because LP and friends have succeeded in burning as many bridges as possible within the base install away from any other init paradigm. Good job, guys. I hope you rot.

Comment Re:Reading the headline... (Score 1) 53

Oh sorry, I ddin't know that only RedHat used systemd... They don't so the constant moaning about it is getting rather tiresome.

They aren't, but RH corporate inexplicably pushed it despite greybeards thinking moving wholesale to an unproven system with a leader with known issues was probably a bad idea.

Ironically, systemd solved problems that were mostly already-solved in RH-land, which is the big reason for the pushback ~2014 when it finally hit EL7 and enterprise admins had to actually care about it. (Boot speed? Please. Could have gotten a lot of that by mimicing Debian's use of DashAsBinSh. Virtually everything else other than cgroup management already had better discrete tools for management in the ecosystem.)

I tend to think systemd's adoption was just a classic case of organizational disaster, pushed by a FreeDesktop team with an agenda and myopia, and project managers with more faith in developers than the sysadmins who actually run the product. But "proprietary complexity on top of open source" is another explanation, given how simple-to-grok shell scripts were replaced with a technically-OSS 100K LoC mishmash of non-deterministic spaghetti.

Comment Re:Discourage? (Score 2) 241

Not when money is to be made, which is what wins in the end. My favorite fake news wave wasn't the election stuff, but the "plague' of "social justice warriors" "taking over the country." that made the internet so much over the pasty year or so. Never met any "SJWs" in real life, despite travelling around a lot, spending a lot of time in public places, and yes going to College Campuses. Mostly in California of all places, around San Francisco even! Surely the heartland of SJW scourge, even though it was almost non existent.

I find this, Anonymous Coward, extraordinarily difficult to believe. I'm still quite close to a number of people who are in college at universities here in San Diego, and it's clear from Facebook postings that there are many what can safely be described as "SJW"'s out there. Either you're intentionally avoiding them or we don't agree on what SJW refers to.

Comment JFC (Score 3, Informative) 46

People should assume that nothing is secure at this point. If you have an advanced device, someone will be able to spy on you.

Starting to wonder if the smartphone (advanced operating system, application ecosystem, sensors out the wazoo) are basically a net loss for society, even before you get to the actual cultural effects of mass, constant, information/internet use.

Comment Re:Microsoft's statement (Score 3, Insightful) 101

The VentureBeat article has been updated with a response from Microsoft:

"We believe in coordinated vulnerability disclosure, and today's disclosure by Google puts customers at potential risk," a Microsoft spokesperson told VentureBeat. "Windows is the only platform with a customer commitment to investigate reported security issues and proactively update impacted devices as soon as possible. We recommend customers use Windows 10 and the Microsoft Edge browser for the best protection."

What the hell are they smoking? Apple, the various Linux distributions, and the BSDs all are committed to "investigating reported security issues and proactively updating impacted devices as soon as possible." They all routinely release immediate updates for critical exploits. I think even Cisco's IOS has a better track record than Windows in time-to-fix for critical vulnerabilities.

I might be wrong, but it seems like that's a crack at the security issues within Google's Android ecosystem...

MS isn't the one that let it get to a point where a bazillion hacked devices without updates are in the field a mere year or two after hardware was released.
XP had support for 10 years.

Comment CenturyLink bought Baby Bell Qwest (Score 2) 67

It's interesting to see the larger (old) AT&T successors competing back again...

New AT&T is, of course, former Baby Bell "Southwestern Bell", which bought the old AT&T, including the AT&T Long Lines department (and, of course, AT&T Long Distance, which is still a functioning corporate unit and is still "the old AT&T"). With CenturyLink, we'll now have two Baby Bells with significant fiber footprints. (As others have pointed out, AT&T / TW doesn't involve TWC/Comcast though.)

It's arguable whether the reconstitution of mega backbones was inevitable. Although divestiture helped competition (MCI, of course) and helped explosively develop the technical capacity needed for internet growth, economies of scale do come back into play. Especially when massive capital outlays come into play.

Comment Be scared (Score 1) 204

I used to not be too afraid of Google's technological dominance, but this is great evidence that Alphabet's well on it's way to becoming the full-on Umbrella Corp... They seem to only employee engineers and project leads who don't live in the real world, and lack a certain amount of common sense.

Laying cable is hard. And you can't just charge everyone marginal costs on physical operations.

Sometimes you can't software your way out of something.

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