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Comment Re:Translation (Score 1) 360

I could not agree more. Like you, I also voted for Bernie, and while some of his ideas were a little extreme for me, I was generally on board with what he was trying to accomplish. Similarly, I have many friends who are evidently the "Bernie or Bust" types, and they all seem to have the same non-sequitur criticisms of her (i.e. "she's just like the rest of them", "she hates women because she defended a rapist", "she is the reason we're stuck with NAFTA", etc).

It's ridiculous the crap that people try to come up with as factual evidence as to why she'd be bad as a president, going so far as to say she'd be as bad or worse than Trump.....which is simply the most laughable thing I think I've ever heard. If anyone believes for a moment that a woman with her experience and capability is remotely close to the shit show that is Donald Trump, then you're simply not dealing in reality, and I highly suggest an appointment with a psychiatrist....like TODAY.....time is of the essence.

Of course she's not perfect. No one is saying she is. But look at the shit that gets brought up most often about her. Benghazi? Absolutely NO ONE has been able to determine that that was "her fault". Hell, a Republican congress hired a Republican military analyst to look over the facts of that case, so you can say with certainty that they all were working together to TRY to find something wrong. Guess what? He found nothing. Sorry it happened, kids, but you can't lay that on her. Oh, and while we're on it, let's keep in mind that she was not the president at the time of NAFTA. Just because her husband signed it into law does not mean that you can lay all of the issues with NAFTA at her feet.

The "Hillary defended a child molester" bit is ridiculous too. Guys, it WAS HER JOB! She was a defense attorney, and was the molester's court appointed attorney. If you're going to demonize her for doing her job, then you better do that for every single solitary defense attorney in the world.....and there's a shit ton of them.

Trump is an imbecile with absolutely no government ability, and if you look carefully, no real business acumen. His bankruptcies are well documented. He will not win, but some folks like to think he will. There's just no way we're going to throw our country into the toilet by electing a clown to thumb our nose at "the system".

Comment Re:Don't take away everyone's freedom (Score 1) 1011

Your own source contradicts you:

In 2012, for instance, only 2.8 percent of the terrorist attacks in Europe were religiously-motivated, but nearly half of the people murdered in these attacks were killed by religiously-inspired terrorists.

But you must be a complete idiot to not see that there is a strong correlation between Islam and terrorism.

I don't follow. I don't see how that contradicts my point. In fact, I see how that clearly SUPPORTS my point. You're asserting that there is some "strong correlation" between terrorism and Islam, and I'm saying that there is NOT a significant correlation there. I'm highlighting this by illustrating the various other correlations that exist relating to acts of violence like this.

Now I definitely agree with you on not being clear on what constitutes a "terror attack" or even sometimes a "hate crime" vs people just doing evil stuff.

Comment Re:Don't take away everyone's freedom (Score 1) 1011

Listen, little tough guy, you're not impressing (or schooling) anybody. Before you get all impressed with yourself at bursting my bubble, I'm a fucking atheist, you twit. I know full well there is no invisible man that lives in the sky, and have no illusions about that, m'kay?

Now as for your "two types of people" thing, you're right, you are in the second group.....they're called imbeciles. If you honestly believe that these texts have nothing to do with either religion, when you obviously have absolutely no understanding of either and are just pontificating from whatever you're dreaming up in that head of yours.

But I digress, that isn't really the point here, is it? The point of this whole thread was the folks who are trying to link this type of terrorist violence to a religion (thus all the talk about religion and texts). I'm illustrating that the religions have nothing to do with it, and I'm countering arguments by other morons who like to cite the "violent" passages in the Koran by showing them that the Bible is no better. They don't seem to like that. And you don't seem to like the fact that I can prove my point. So let me get your position straight here. So if the KKK had more press lately, and had committed more mass atrocities more recently, then the argument works, but since they haven't been getting a lot of air time lately, it's not the same thing. Is that it? The Westboro assholes aren't big enough, and they haven't detonated any bombs yet, so they're good, even though they specifically exist to incite hatred and bigotry, it's not a big deal, and not at all proof that Christians do bad shit, is that it?

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume that you probably have a reason in mind that I can't point to Hitler (also a Christian)....probably too long ago, huh? Never mind the 6,000,000 dead.....that's old news, huh? How about this guy , or maybe these folks ? No? Are we allowed to count these guys ?

Probably not. I'm sure you have a reason that you've dreamed up that they're totally different and therefore, they don't count.

I love how guys like you believe you're super informed and intelligent, but it never occurs to you that when you spend 16 years raining fucking bombs down on a country, eventually, the poor, uneducated, starving people in that country might rise up and right back, in whatever rag-tag militia that they can cobble together.....nah, you just focus on the fact that they're called Muslims, and therefore, Muslims=bad. The reality is, your a fucking hack, dude. You know squat, and talk all the shit you want, but you KNOW I'm right here. You're off base, I tried to be nice, but you wanted to be a condescending prick about it.

Seriously, read a little bit sometimes. Stop dreaming up your own delusions, and for goodness sake, stop listening to Rush and Drumpf.

Comment Re:Don't take away everyone's freedom (Score 1) 1011

Wow. The ignorance astounds.

Well, enjoy wasting your vote. Trump doesn't have a chance in the general election, and it would be impossible to do what he is proposing to do anyway.

Enjoy your life hating others based on silly misconceptions. When you're older, you'll probably realize how dopey you've been.

Comment Re:Don't take away everyone's freedom (Score 1) 1011

Meh. I'm just going to go with statistics. Even among radical Christians the number of terrorist acts stands at a tiny percentage compared to the number of terrorist attacks among radical Islamists.

Not sure what statistics you're looking at, but if you were to take your own advice, you'd see I'm right

Comment Re:Don't take away everyone's freedom (Score 1) 1011

Man, you're obtuse. It must be difficult not understanding things. You talked about the KKK as a comparison, obviously an American organization. So, I pointed out plainly how your argument is flawed because you're comparing the riches country in the world with the strongest military in the world with these small, disorganized (and now destroyed) Middle Eastern countries.

But just to humor you, because you seem to like arguing, don't you think that those same war-torn people, starving to death, living in constant fear might be able to be manipulated to believe that since the US and the EU are allies, that perhaps they might exhibit some violence on Brussels? Is it really such a stretch to believe that these same downtrodden, manipulated kids are led to believe that they really are doing "god's work" by these ISIS lunatics, and therefore they had to avenge the capture of one of their great assassins?

Seriously, dude, this isn't that hard to figure out. You rain down bombs on poor countries for 16 years, and eventually people in that country get tired of it and act out in irrational (if not desperate) ways.

Comment Re:Don't take away everyone's freedom (Score 1) 1011

Well, if at the same time, some country whose military was about 1,000 times more powerful than our own had destroyed most of the country and toppled our government, and therefore there was no definitive police or army to keep the peace.....I'd bet the KKK could do exactly the same thing. You have to compare apples to apples here. People are making it out like it's a Muslim issue, forgetting the fact that we've spent the last 16 years bombing the fucking shit out of these countries. That tends to piss people off, a lot. You get a lot of pissed off people who are poorly educated and put them in touch with some enterprising asshole who tells them some fairytale about how they can achieve greatness and escape the misery of everyday life by joining in some "holy war", and you've got a recipe for some major shit.

Comment Re:Don't take away everyone's freedom (Score 1) 1011

That's ridiculous. First of all, if the leadership is mentally ill, that would be sufficient. However, the point I'm making is that the actions that happened here have nothing to do with religion, regardless of the fact that people would like to characterize it that way. If we are going to characterize it that way, then every act that's done in the name of religion must also be characterized the same way, which given the history, Christians don't want, because they're the worst of them all. I was responding to the joker above you who's trying to build in excuses as to why those Christian terrorists don't count, and he's using mental illness as the cop out......as if the idea of someone blowing up an airport isn't indicative of mental instability.

It's a silly double standard that the right in the US has managed to get people to believe because it's easier for them to believe that than to actually think.

Comment Re:Don't take away everyone's freedom (Score 1) 1011

Thank you for helping me make my point. We are saying the same thing, which is, you can't associate these types of actions with a religion because a) these lunatics are not representative of said religion, regardless of what religion that is and b) there are so many different interpretations of each religion, it's impossible to group them as a whole.

Unfortunately, you go on to completely contradict yourself by talking about your understanding of Christians in America to be such that they wouldn't do such things. Guessing you're unfamiliar with the KKK or the Westboro Baptist Church, huh? What about Eric Rudolph, remember him? He was a Christian, and he bombed a huge crowd there's plenty more. Yes, I cited a source with a particularly "on the nose" domain name, sorry it was too much for you. If you had been brave enough to click, you'd see that it's actually a well organized site with good navigation illustrating the hundreds if not thousands of incitements to violence in the Bible. Perhaps this link is more to your liking?

Comment Re:Don't take away everyone's freedom (Score 1) 1011

You can't deny this correlation, because it exists.

There are lots of correlations that exist. But trying to boil it down to one group or religion is just hogwash. You're drinking the Kool Aid, my friend. Hell, the Buddhists are killing people left and right in Burma, but you excuse that as some sort of "one off". So many examples of crazy people doing things in the name of one religion/philosophy or another, but you choose to try to classify it as all being one group?

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Comment Re:Don't take away everyone's freedom (Score 1, Interesting) 1011

If Christians or Atheists committed the same number of atrocities, we would all agree with your sarchasm 100%. However, that is not the case. We don't have sleeper cells of atheists and Christians plotting to kill as many innocents as possible.

Is that so? You may want to click here and filter to "Christian Identity" to check your facts, bud. You might want to consider reading up on folks like these guys to see just how incorrect you are.

I will never understand why people like you can't admit the obvious. Instead you want to play games and try to find equivalence between a couple of Colorado crazies and the hundreds (thousands?) of attacks done by Muslims. Good luck trying to win hearts and minds with that approach. People aren't as stupid as you think they are.

Apparently, you may just be as stupid as I think you are. So this is a numbers game for you then? So by your rationale, if the "couple of crazies" had been more successful in their campaigns of terror, then it'd be the same, but because they cocked it up and didn't score enough kills, it's not the same thing? Seriously?

You really believe that there is no significant violence done in the name of Christianity?

If you're still incensed at these facts because it was the actions of a few "crazies" who are not representative of the overall religion, then CONGRATULATIONS!! You just learned something! You just learned EXACTLY my point. If YOU believe that the actions of these ISIS idiots are representative of Islam, then you're clearly not understanding how things work.....or you're desperately trying to make yourself feel better about Christianity for some reason......which probably means you consider yourself a Christian and therefore better than others.

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