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Comment Re:Try KDE4 (Score 1) 321

"Dude, it's disk space, not RAM."

It increases RAM requirements significantly as well.

"If you got space for a single movie you got space for KDE."

And what if I have devices that dont have space for a movie? Particularly free and un-needed?

Or what if I have more disk and ram than I know what to do with, I am still supposed to go through the equivalent of downloading a movie just to manage my windows? Whether I have the space/ram/time/bandwidth or not does not settle the question of whether or not I really want to use it on this in particular.

"That's like the lamest "hater" argument ever."

Wait a moment, let me get this straight, preferring a window manager to your DE makes me a 'hater?'

FFS grow up.

"You realize you can customize your install and it's not a monolithic package in any distro, do you?"

It's still hundreds of megabytes for the absolute minimum install just to get kwin (the window manager in KDE) up and running. Why would I do that when I can get a WM I like better, and do it with a tiny fraction of the resources?

Comment Re:Cheers to my old teacher (Score 1) 490

Are you certain of that?

I suspect if you've bothered to try and calculate it you have left a few things out. There was a time a few million years ago when the planet was that hot, and London was not under nearly that much water - it appears to have been a swamp.

Calculating the end result of changes like that is extremely complicated, and even people that have spent their entire life on the subject may easily miscalculate. Melting ice caps historically have *increased* elevations across Scandinavia, for instance, though that doesnt affect London directly.

Comment Re:Cheers to my old teacher (Score 2) 490

In fact we arent heading *into* an ice-age, we are living in one. The climate we consider normal is an ice age climate, specifically the interglacial, periods colder than typical for earth, but not the most extreme cold in earths cycle - times when there are solid ice caps at the poles, but they dont extend very far from them. The next phase of the ice-age climate is the shift from interglacial to glacial, a period of greater cold when the glaciers will grow down towards the equators as they have done many times before. And that's 'imminent' on a timescale of tens of thousands of years.

What we're being told to worry about now is that our co2 emissions will cause such drastic warming as to over-ride the Milankovitch and other natural cycles and vault us quickly OUT of our current ice-age, into a hot-house earth state - a much more common state for earth in general but one we should naturally have a few million years to prepare for. In that state, the ice-caps disappear entirely, and the next thing you know you have alligators and palm trees in London again.

Frankly I suspect the forces involved need to be understood a little better before anyone is going to know for sure what will actually wind up happening. Climatology is a rather young discipline tasked with sorting out some incredibly complicated subject matter.

Comment Not really (Score 4, Insightful) 179

Obama is hardly going to pardon someone that outed his own criminal behaviour.

But what should be happening is a special prosecutor. Snowden would be easy to get back in the country, just give him immunity. I am sure he would be happy to come back and testify in a real court about the crimes he has knowledge of.

Comment Re:How to attract developers? (Score 1) 321

It doesnt happen in exactly the same way with proprietary software. Instead of the developers going off to chase whatever they think is new and exciting, they get sent off every so often to chase what marketing thinks is new and exciting, but either way projects are never finished. Programs which become generally mature, in danger of reaching bug free and feature complete, are always phased out in favor of new and shiny one way or another.

Comment Re:Try KDE4 (Score 1) 321

What's the KDE base system? 500 megs or more these days? I havent looked at it in years. But tell me, why would I download and install all that for a window manager when I can get one that works better in less than a meg? Really?

Dont get me wrong, KDE is ok. A lot better than GNOME. But I think it's absolutely ludicrous to talk about installing KDE just to get a WM. Which is what we are talking about. ICEWM, it's even in the name.

Comment Re:There is a way (Score 2) 321

The hardest thing would be getting a coder that's mature enough to do the job properly. It would take very little time to simply maintain the mature code and occasionally stomp a bug. Unfortunately if you give this job to a younger coder, regardless of what country he's from, you stand a very high chance of seeing him go crazy wanting to add new features and just screw it all up.

Comment Re:Android is not Linux ... (Score 2) 321

Not that I agree with his original point, but...

"Linux and BSD are a bit different when you get to the console."

Actually they arent. Dont let the default shells fool you. You can get bash on BSD and Zsh on linux. Or you could install ksh on either one for that matter.

If you install and use bash and other gnu tools in preference to the BSD tools, you would wind up with GNU/BSD.

Comment Re:Welcome to Linux (Score 2) 321

"Right now, in this post, what I am against is bogus arguments either way."

And you did that quite well.

(And if there was a big meta-package I could install on Windows to add all the GNU tools, ported and compiled for Windows, THEN I might talk about GNU/Windows. I keep waiting for someone to package up ReactOS like that to support netbooks, but I digress.)

And btw, I think a big part of why Stallman draws a red line on his terminology here is out of fear of exactly the sort of deliberate confusion that was used above us in this thread. 'Android is linux' is technically true, but since so many people hear 'linux' and think of a fully functioning GNU OS that happens to use linux as the kernel, it's very (deliberately) misleading. Android is really little if any more open than OSX. Both exploit a free kernel by hooking it into unfree userland and incorporating unfree drivers without which it is no longer functional.

Comment Re:A DE by any other name (Score 1) 321

First off it's not a DE it's a WM. A Window Manager, not some Detestedesktop Environment.

And while it's not my WM of choice, there is a lot to be said for a WM rather than a DE. It has a lot lower requirements in terms of memory or storage or dependencies, and it also has a lot less junk to get in the way of its core functionality. And since the codebase is smaller it's much less difficult to audit as well.

There are several great old WMs out there that are mature, feature-complete, and nearly bug-free at this point. Companies arent interested (companies make profits selling latest and greatest and herding customers on the upgrade treadmill) and unfortunately in many cases neither are coders (maintaining a project that releases two updates to stomp minor bugs over 3 years does sound slightly boring, and isnt likely to help much in a job interview either I guess.

Comment Re:Total Compatibility We Need for Legacy into Fut (Score 1) 512

A lot of people will roll their eyes and talk about how this would supposedly weigh the system down. But it would not have to do so at all. Gnu systems can do this, if you care to set up all the requisite emulators/not-emulators, and dont mind some lack of polish. A modern PC can run all this old software in an emulator without bloating the (by todays standards, extremely modest) requirements of the old software by enough to really notice in most cases. You know why they dont do it?

Because they make money from selling new software. And for decades now they have driven demand for new software by deliberately breaking old software. Just like everyone else in the industry.

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