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Comment Re:No .tar.gz, Get a package manager (Score 1) 176

"I was consistently talking about the developers perspective, not the user! "

OK.

"If you think editing configure.ac and Makefile.am files is easy to learn, I bow to your brilliance, but myself and many others don't share this experience."

I dont think it's any harder than lots of other things that developers have to do routinely. Certainly in my experience it is much easier than trying to grapple with e.g. RPM packaging.

"Binary tarballs, as you say, are limited/useless"

I didnt say that at all. They are great! But not all distros are compatible. And it's not the developers job to fix the broken distribution.

" (dependency hell, different architectures)"

Different architectures require recompilation, obviously. Make is the best tool for that. Dependency hell? If I understand you correctly that is a package manager problem. It used to drive me nuts years ago trying to get RedHat to work, but I have used Slackware for decades without seeing anything like it.

Comment Re:No .tar.gz, Get a package manager (Score 1) 176

"Sorry, but it *is* difficult to get from a compilable program to a distributable program that Linux users can try out easily."

A bare assertion with no logic or evidence behind it that directly contradicts experience.

"You suggest tarballs, meaning configure && make && make install. That means you need to deal with automake and friends which are insanely obscure and hard to learn."

What 'deal with?' What on earth do you mean. You type a command and press enter, a command simple enough you embedded it in your first sentence. If that is 'difficult' for you to 'deal with' I suggest you try something a little simpler than a general purpose computer.

And anyway I said only tarballs I didnt say anything about source tarballs. Binary tarballs are another very easy way to install a program, even easier than source tarballs, although compatibility may be more limited.

"The alternative is to make packages and get them into the offical repos. You have to do that for a couple of distributions, and probably test the installation on them as well. That is a large effort for a developer."

No, as a developer, you should not be making packages (except possibly for the distro you personally use.) Many distributions these days are crufty with proprietary junk and keeping up with all the little peculiarities of each distribution IS actually a lot more effort than typing 'make'. That job is best left in the hands of people who are intimately familiar with their distribution and have the motivation to tolerate its insanities.

Comment Re:Congratulations (Score 1) 762

Even though I dont agree with you I will commend you for focusing on the key issue instead of chasing down side-alleys. But in fact your analysis, while commonly held, is fundamentally incorrect. These are not biological divisions but simple *statistical differences* - and much, much smaller than the differences between individuals of the same 'race.' You can redraw your *race* lines in a hundred different pseudo-random ways and get several hundred different groups that will all be somewhat mushily distinguishable on the basis of tiny statistical differences but that doesnt mean there is any real biological division there. The difference between two individuals is typically orders of magnitude larger than the differences between these supposed races.

Which indicates clearly they dont really exist. They are socially constructed categories given added and undeserved credibility by the assumption that they reflect a biological reality to which, in fact, they bear little to no resemblance.

Comment Re:Congratulations (Score 1) 762

You are simply wrong. In common usage, race comes out nearly the same as ethnicity, but it is not an exact synonym. The distinction is that race carries with it the notion of biological division, which ethnicity does not imply. And it is precisely that element of biological division which does not, in fact, exist among humans today.

Comment Re:Congratulations (Score 1) 762

"It's all the same." No, actually, it's not all the same. Racism is unique in that it is prejudice based entirely on delusion. Men and women really are different on a biological level - I am not saying that excuses sexism, but sex itself is not something we just invented and assign arbitrarily, it's a real biological distinction. Race is not.

Comment Re:Congratulations (Score 1) 762

"Are you really going to ignore my point because of semantics?"

I am really going to point out when the point you thought you were making is inaccessible or unclear at best, because of your lack of semantic hygiene. You bet.

Semantic hygiene is extremely important if you wish to be able to think clearly and communicate clearly. If you think that semantics is somehow trivial or unimportant? You need to rethink that and find your error.

Unfortunately you may have to improve your semantic hygiene before you will be able to think clearly enough to realise how important it is. Kind of a chicken and egg problem there I guess.

Comment Re:Congratulations (Score 1) 762

No, actually, 'race' is a flat out delusion. It is distinct from ethnicity and implies a biological connection (between members of a purported race) as well as biological separation (between the purported races) neither of which actually exists.

It's not impossible to have multiple human races on the planet - it's happened before and it might well happen again. But the last human race besides our own, the Neanderthals, have been extinct for quite some time now, and all living humans are clearly of the same race.

Comment Re:Congratulations (Score 1) 762

"Let's face reality here - so long as there are obviously different races, there will be racism; it's an inevitability."

Let's face reality here - all humans are clearly members of one race. Racism is the *delusion* to the contrary. Apparently it is a delusion you have yet to free yourself from.

You need to set your own mind free before you can help others with their own.

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