Follow Slashdot stories on Twitter


Forgot your password?

Comment Re:Their kid died (Score 1) 54

Interesting. I am not a gun owner.

That is indeed interesting. You defend the gun owners - and arguably even more so the gun culture - quite a bit. Yet you made the personal choice to not purchase a gun.

That said, the guns that I own are entirely for personal enjoyment and not at all for self defense. In fact none of my guns are even currently in my house as I don't want to have to worry about children getting to them, and I haven't owned any ammunition for them in years. Of course I acknowledge that gun safes in the house, when used properly, are more than adequate to keep guns safe from errant use; I just choose to keep my weapons elsewhere when I don't need access to them. I so seldom have time to shoot them that I don't see a need to keep them nearby; I generally schedule shooting sessions weeks to months in advance which is more than enough time to get them from the place where I store them (about 20 miles from home).

It's a shame the kid didn't manage to kill the idiot who left a deadly unlocked weapon sitting around instead, it would have done the world a favor.

And you, sir, are better than that.

Thank you.

Wanton destruction is uncool.

I don't seek the death of anyone, but if someone should die from the irresponsibility of a gun owner, it should be the owner and nobody else. If it were up to me the gun owner would be tried for first degree murder and child endangerment. I predict the gun owner - regardless of their relation to the dead child - will likely face little if any actual charges for their stupidity.

Comment Re:What is it filled with? (Score 1) 158

That's not really how it works. Most of the helium will be at the top, and most of the air at the bottom, but they will mix. In any case, how do you suck out the air in this scenario? If you put oil and water in a glass and tried to draw out the water by sucking it out through a straw, there'd be that bit at the end where you'd almost certainly leave some water there, while sucking up oil.

Comment Re:What is it filled with? (Score 2) 158

Helium, It's in TFA.

In terms of alternatives: I think the dangers of hydrogen have been overstated but I don't think there's much likelihood of anyone switching to that in the near future, and there's also its corrosive effects on iron to consider. Vacuums? Until someone can come up with a lightweight container that's able to withstand an atmosphere of air pressure (which is much more than you might think) it's not going to happen.

Comment Re:Their kid died (Score 1) 54

Do you feel your assertions apply equally to the case of the auto industry, pursuant to traffic deaths?

No. Nobody promotes the use of cars as tools of death. Nobody strives to give absurdly powerful cars to people who have less regard for personal responsibility than gerbils and less emotional stability than rabid dogs.

The gun culture, however, by way of their going far beyond mere complacency, is actively placing guns in the hands of people who are not capable of owning them responsibly.

What of the number of crimes precluded or having their impact minimized by firearms. For example, women who ventilate would-be rapists?

First of all, it is nearly impossible to say that those cases were prevented solely by someone having a gun. Do we know that other weapons would not have been effective? Do we know, with the other person being dead, what their intent was? And what about when the weapon doesn't work in the way the person carrying it wants it to, and it misfires, hurts someone else, or ends up being used against the owner?

Second, looking at the number of cases where one can even make a somewhat reasonable argument that the gun was actually useful, you still have fewer cases of that happening than cases of gun accidents where people are maimed or killed by or via stupid bastards such as the ones in the article I linked to in this JE.

I understand you experience visceral repulsion at the thought of guns, sir.

No, you do not. Smitty you are better than that. Don't go putting words into my mouth because they fit the NRA mantras. I am a gun owner myself. However unlike these stupid fuckers whose child is now dead I am responsible with my guns. It's a shame the kid didn't manage to kill the idiot who left a deadly unlocked weapon sitting around instead, it would have done the world a favor.

Comment Re:Their kid died (Score 1) 54

. . .just sweep it under the rug. The mainstream media here will basically do the same as well, as they fear the NRA and similar groups.

Are you saying that the NRA is careless about gun safety? Or that the "gun culture" is careless about gun safety?

They aren't quite careless about gun safety as much as they are unconcerned about the consequences of gun owners who are. At least once a week in this country we have another story of someone who was horribly injured or killed as the direct result of a careless gun owner, and yet nothing really ever happens. Clearly, people are not getting the message that guns are lethal instruments that should not be casually left around.

So while the NRA may publish pamphlets on gun safety, the gun culture in this country isn't really that concerned about it. Hell, how many people are injured at gun shows every year or carry in guns for sale / trade that are loaded? You can pretend that the NRA is concerned about gun safety based on its official message, but there really is no strong argument to be made that the gun culture at large really worries that much about it. If the gun culture was honestly concerned about safety then this crap would never happen. Instead it happens at least once a week, and often gets quickly pushed aside by the media and the PR machines of the NRA and gun culture.

So is the NRA careless? Careless to me suggests that they would be encouraging people to disregard common sense gun safety. I don't see the NRA as careless. I do, however, see them as being more concerned about other things - including getting these types of incidents out of public attention ASAP.

Comment Re:Their kid died (Score 1) 54

No amount of fines or prison could be worse than that.

The problem though is that the gun culture in this country will encourage them to just sweep it under the rug. The mainstream media here will basically do the same as well, as they fear the NRA and similar groups. As long as people are encouraged to not take these things seriously they will continue to happen. The rest of the people at the campground are (relatively) lucky in that the kid shot him/herself and didn't pull the trigger while the weapon was aimed elsewhere.

If people want to own guns they need to be responsible for them. The gun owner should be charged with murder for being an idiot.

That said, we don't know yet if the gun belonged to mom, dad, or some other relative. The news release did not say how many people were at the campsite. This kid may have died from someone else's weapon.

Comment Re:eh? (Score 5, Insightful) 762

If men in general were politically dominant, then it wouldn't be the case that 75% of all homeless people are male

Homelessness is often correlated with mental illness, which is preponderant in men. Next.

there are numerous homeless shelters that cater strictly to women.

Those are battered women shelters. Domestic abuse is still heavily skewed towards women being victims, largely because they are on average physically weaker.

If men in general were politically dominant, then we wouldn't have men being forced to pay child support for children that the courts acknowledge aren't even theirs.

A single anecdote based on a time frame where men where so dominant socially and politically that a divorced mother would be condemned to a life of abject poverty. The reason for these laws is because it used to be that women were incapable of finding jobs anything other than secretaries or nurses. Add to that that mothers were in the vast majority of cases "home makers", being divorced was close to a poverty sentence.

If men in general were politically dominant, then Title IX wouldn't instruct colleges to kick out men on the mere allegation of sexual misconduct (the "preponderance of evidence" clause) rather than requiring actual evidence.

You watched too much CSI. Preponderance of evidence is the standard for any civil case. Which is what Title IX cases fall under.

I agree that some feminist claims, as well as laws designed to deal with male supremacy need to be revisited. But your examples aren't helping your argument.

Slashdot Top Deals

"Kill the Wabbit, Kill the Wabbit, Kill the Wabbit!" -- Looney Tunes, "What's Opera Doc?" (1957, Chuck Jones)