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Comment Re:Bragging about torture (Score 2) 390

Even more, the Spanish Inquisition documented the same torture methods that the US Government classified as "enhanced interrogation techniques" -- but the Spanish Inquisition was in no doubt that the methods described were forms of torture.

I think I'm going to ask for some documentation on that. The "enhanced interrogation" methods used by the US were quite limited in nature. Coercive? Yes, but torture? Torture has specific legal meanings, and the US methods were specifically drawn to not constitute torture despite what any particular activists might claim. From what I have seen they may have been unpleasant, but didn't pose a genuine threat to life or limb as the methods of the Spanish Inquisition. Even "waterboarding" as it was performed, which was quite different from the Spanish practice, wasn't particularly dangerous even if very unpleasant. The US has waterboarded in the same manner what must easily be tens of thousands of its own Special Forces soldiers and pilots over the last 50 years. I don't think anybody is going to reasonably claim that it is actually torturing highly trained and valuable members of its own armed forces.

Comment Re:Bragging about torture (Score 1) 390

Were? You think things are better? Our government is executing Americans overseas without a trial(even an unfair one) now.

Do you think that's new? Many people forget that the US Federal government has killed Americans inside the US(!) that were in the exact same legal status of men like Anwar al-Awlaki , famous for his broadcasts. And it should be noted that the Federal government did it without arrest, charge, trial, conviction, sentence, or appeal. One of those incidents, in which the US government shot dead American citizens without trial in the same way they did al-Awlaki, and for much the same reason, is commerated here.

Comment Re:News for nerds (Score 0) 218

Why, because he'd probably prefer to take the 0.0000000001% chance that a bomb would go off on a plane (most likely with or without the TSA) while he's on it than have everyone's freedoms be violated by slimy, worthless government thugs?

How many armed robberies occur in police stations? Might you be one of those people that is baffled and troubled by increased incarceration rates while crime is falling? Proper security measures increase the risk of failure and detection for terrorists. We know they haven't lost interest in causing damage. Do you think there might possibly be a connection, that they might not want to undertake high risk operations highly likely to fail in achieving their goal? That results in a loss of personnel and resources for nothing that they consider gain. In fact failure is an embarrassment to them and damages recruiting efforts since it harms their reputation.

But violating people's rights in an effort to keep people safe isn't an injustice?

Which actual right, as defined in law as interpreted by the courts, is being violated? Or are you referring to just your own personal opinion?

Comment That is misleading (Score 0) 218

You should read more attentively A., you are missing some key points.

If you read the story you find that the intelligence estimate is several years old (2011) and refers to domestic groups, not international terrorists.

From The Article:

“As of mid-2011, terrorist threat groups present in the Homeland are not known to be actively plotting against civil aviation targets or airports; instead, their focus is on fundraising, recruiting, and propagandizing.”

In any event it appears that this information is outdated and no longer relevant given the recent reports from aircraft crews observing what they believe to be either probes of security or dry runs for attacks on planes.

Pilots union warns of possible terrorism 'dry runs'

An internal memo from the union representing US Airways pilots details a frightening incident that brings back memories of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, WTSP-TV in Tampa-St. Petersburg reports.

The US Airlines Pilots Association memo says "there have been several cases recently throughout the (airline) industry of what appear to be probes, or dry runs, to test our procedures and reaction to an in-flight threat."

The pilots say the most recent dry run occurred on Flight 1880 on Sept. 2.

Pilots union warns of 'dry run' by possible terrorists on US flight

"Bringing down an airliner continues to be the Gold Standard of terrorism," states the undated memo, first reported by WTSP-TV in Tampa-St. Petersburg. "If anyone thinks that our enemies have “been there, done that” and are not targeting U.S. commercial aviation -- think again." ...

According to the memo, the pilot of a subsequent, return flight bearing the same flight number, 1880, ordered an inspection of the plane after eight women in burkas showed up at the boarding gate. The memo claims that "evidence of tampering was found," though it does not elaborate.

One expert speculated that the efforts may have been aimed at sizing up security procedures and spotting air marshals aboard flights. ...

Experts said the incident could be an indication of another attempt to detonate a bomb aboard an airplane while midflight. Ret. Col. Mike Pheneger, former director of intelligence at Special Operations Command, said it’s “impossible” to absolutely prevent terrorist attacks.

"We can only make it more difficult for people to attack an airplane or a facility,” he said. “We can't make it impossible. We have to be lucky 100 percent of the time and they only have to be lucky once."

As to the fund raising, some of it is no doubt related to cigarette smuggling.

Tobacco and Terror: How Cigarette Smuggling is Funding our Enemies Abroad (.pdf)

It has been well-reported that terrorist and criminal organizations are conducting illicit business operations within the United States, sending the profits overseas to finance domestic and international terrorist and criminal organizations. Recent law enforcement investigations have revealed that those profits, estimated to be in the millions of dollars annually in the United States alone, are generated in part by illicit cigarette trafficking. ... Recent law enforcement investigations, however, have directly linked those involved in illicit tobacco trade to infamous terrorist organizations such as Hezbollah, Hamas, and al Qaeda.

The world hasn't "moved on," it is simply not paying attention.... again.

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