You say the idea of being aborted doesn't bother you. On some level you are speaking truthfully, but let us be more specific. That level is, to be exact, the surface level.
Quite the opposite. My views come from countless hours of meditation. It is truly freeing and humbling and sometimes frightening to look inside that far, but anyone can do it. It just takes some courage. Life isn't perfect, and neither is that. I have a picture of my last grave on my phone
If you claim none of this bothers you, well, I call shenanigans. In that case you are just too sophisticated to understand who you really are and too refined in your pursuit of approval from a blurred assortment of individuals (the deceit of which is called "society").
Approval? My thinking in this scenario is to make the tough decisions now, so that tomorrow is a better day. I'm never said making these kinds decisions are easy or straightforward, I'm just saying these things just don't cause the kind of deep pain you seem to think it does. Not to a path that hasn't even started. Maybe to the would-be parents, if they let themselves feel guilty.
This surgeon has reduced your life to the value of sparing someone -not from the pain of having headaches, but from the pain of having to get off the couch to take some aspirin.
Close to what I'm saying, but three clarifications would make this more clear:
I'm saying that we've come a long way as a society, with aspirin and cheap food as an example, and if we decide as a whole that this couldn't possibly have any dark implications for the future (reverse evolution) and don't do anything to avoid that, then we're going to get exactly that.
I'm also saying that "people" != "bodies". You're a spiritual person, so I'm sure you're acquainted with this idea.
Most importantly, it is totally different to lose your earthly anchor when you don't have a rope to it yet, then to, say, have a surgeon come for you in your prime years. If that doesn't seem intuitive yet, than just trust me on that, it is not a big deal.
I know this is a painful and personal issue for some, and maybe you have some regrets there, but this is unnecessary. Life is a gift. It can be taken away by anything, but it can be given at any time as well. If you abort one, and then have another later, it could very well be the same child, though it may look a bit different, have a different set of challenges, but such is a life.
That person, deep down underneath your comments here is the real you, the you I believe in. Whoever else you summon to respond is a murderer, and I will expose them as such.
What I'm talking about is a wholly different kind of compassion. One that assumes that, somehow, there is more to us than just a wad of flesh. Actually, that the wad of flesh doesn't matter that much. Yes, when you're self-aware, how your life goes down definitely matters. And I would agree that 5 months into a pregnancy is pushing it, since there is certainly some awareness there. But prior to that, why would it matter?
When I say the idea of my own abortion doesn't bother me, I'm saying I'd be fine with another, different life. And I'd be living it pretty much the same way, so it really doesn't make a huge difference in the big scheme of things. Unless some horrible deformity or disease got in the way, then I wouldn't necessarily be able to live life how I'd want to.
Its going to happen to you too, eventually. We all die. And when you come back, maybe you'll have to deal with a life sentence of disease or deformity of some kind. I hope for your sake you'd be one of my sons or daughters, because you wouldn't need to deal with that possibility (within the testing ability of modern medical science, of course), and if there was a problem, the abortion would happen at 5-6 weeks (been there, done that). No possibility of suffering whatsoever. Furthermore, I'd hope you'd do the same for me.
Hypocrite! How would you feel about someone throwing you out and replacing you?
Why are you ashamed? I think you're seeing the jaded outgassing of something deeper, and taking it the wrong way.
I'm not a hypocrite. The idea that I could have been aborted doesn't bother me. A life, any life, is what you make it. I'll share my reasons for this view:
I don't subscribe to this "one life" concept as being a genuinely spiritually valid viewpoint. Twins have different personalities for a reason, and here's a hint: it's not genetics!
Perhaps a lesson is in order: Before you are born you are not attached to that life. As you get older you get attached, and then you reach a certain point in adulthood where you get less attached at time goes on. The young adult years are the most vulnerable. When you get to old age, you more or less are used to the idea of moving on.
The next time you meet or hear about someone who isn't at home in their own skin, like a transsexual, think about what that really means. Consider you might have a person who maybe attached to some other life that they were enjoying, which ended abruptly. Maybe even you have quirks like this. It is certainly worth exploring.
That is precisely why abortion is humane, and "getting rid of stroke victims" isn't. No attachments. A blank slate is a blank slate.
I'm concerned for the long term viability of humanity because I'd like to keep living this life and many more, so to speak. One thing history proves is that society does not last forever, and medicine always goes with it. I happen to believe that our current basic iteration of society will be around a very long time before we would hit our next "dark age", long enough to evolve the entire human race into medical dependency if we go down the wrong path. Once society disappears, then what?
You may not agree with my rather game-like view of life, where "people" come from the soul, and coming back to live another life is a default, and everything is basically cyclical. But I challenge you to define it in a better way, that doesn't subjugate intuition with rote.
In the mean time, while you're figuring that out in your own way, I'll go my way and carve a cleaner, clearer path to future generations by being picky. And I won't force any of my children to live trivial lives defined by degrading, meaningless obstacles simply because I didn't make the effort to be informed or just couldn't make the tough decisions.
Because I'm well aware that how things look and feel from the outside can have no correlation with the amount of struggling going on within. I don't put any currency in how people feel about someone else's situation, because they'll think rather ignorant things like "humanity got along just FINE for thousands of years" when in fact reality was just a little bit more sinister, even if you just look at the tiniest details, like how we can just take an aspirin when we have a headache, or how an hour's wages, even at the lowliest occupation, will buy a fully prepared meat dinner.
That old, suffering world isn't quite dead yet, but we are making great progress, and we're almost there. And almost doesn't mean its time to get all soft and emotional, and cave in to the forces of darkness and randomness just so we can avoid feeling responsible for the world, and blaming it all on elitist programmers.
Cue the Republitard-creationist onslaught of "this is proof of heaven" in 5..4..3...
It's official, Voyager has hit the map boundary and is hitting the clipping wall! The Matrix is real!
She'll need cheat codes to go any further, but what is the point? There's just an endless free fall void out there! Well, maybe it'll find some unfinished part of the map that got abandoned. That would be cool.
I'm sure religion will find a way to deal. Talking in vague code is humanity's best available toolset to make our limited reasoning seem more important and profound. Like how the pain of labor was caused by an Apple "of sin", even though everyone knows how much the glans resembles an apple...no that's just too obvious and mundane of an explanation....next up, Lolordz CREATED the heavan and the earth, and failed to mention the other tinkering going on. But he didst so because it was not our place in the house of the Lolordz.
You clearly have not worked for any amount of time on minimum wage.
It is certainly possible. I did it for years. The main elements of survival:
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