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Comment Re:Let's hope no one needs... (Score 1) 91

So the rampant stock and real estate speculation and over-leveraged banks had nothing to do with it? Well I'll be darn. Here I always thought a stock market crash was caused by, well, an overvalued stock market. Instead apparently it has nothing to do with the stock market at all! Amazing the things you learn.

What is your problem? I never said nothing else was involved, but it is a historical fact that government price fixing (in the US) and foreign nationalism (Europe mostly) lead directly to the great depression. Don't sit there and pretend I said a bunch of other things because it doesn't fit the narrative you need in order to justify your ideology.

My dad and I both worked with those guys you claim are only in my mind. Mostly farm kids who grew up eating cornmeal mush three times a day because that's all their family could afford. Dumb as dirt, largely unable to do even simple math or write a letter, much less create a family budget or figure out how to save money for retirement.

and if they died from malnutrition due to the depression as you said, then this is a complete lie. Which is it? Did they die because life was so bad or did they live and you and your dad made friends of them? I would certainly think death is a qualifier for your later statement.

If you're the type of person who thinks that millions of people facing starvation because it's more profitable to sell the food elsewhere (which has happened repeatedly before governments started stepping in) is acceptable then I doubt that there is a place in civilization for you. This whole "me first, everything for me, greed is good" philosophy is utterly at odds with the ever-expanding sense of community that has created modern civilization.

There you go inventing things I supposedly said or believe in without a shred of evidence. I'm sorry I even bothered with your delusional ass in the first place. Nothing you say can be trusted as you proved that you make crap up as needed right here.

I do not really care if someone is starving because food is being sold somewhere else. That has nothing to do with what was said. History also refutes your premise largely because before government and the infrastructure brought about by it, food did not travel well or keep long and had to be created and sold locally. It is government that created the ability to sell food elsewhere while people around you starve in the first place. Anyways, here is a hint, if it is not yours, you are not entitled to it. If someone wants to sell something 2 thousand miles away and it is theirs, you being 10 feet away is meaningless. If you want it so bad, get off your ass and make it yourself or find another supplier.

Comment Re:Wrong by law (Score 1) 601

No, there is no way domestic spying can be allowed, period. Surveillance by law enforcement, subject to judicial review, is not "spying". If you don't know what the terms mean, of course, that may confuse you.

Comment Re:Free markets have *immense* social value (Score 1) 476

You deserve a longer reply, but I don't have time for one. In brief:

Argumentum ad absurdum

When a company owns it's own stock, who really owns the stock? Think mathematically.

It's not about what the owners should be responsible for, but who the owners should be.

There absolutely is a correlation between being publicly traded and over focusing quarterly returns. It is only a tendency, but it is sufficient to destroy many great companies and hinder our economy as a whole. See "exception that proves the rule".

I don't see "rich guy" as pejorative. I see it as way over-simplified, which was the target I was shooting for. Sorry for the confusion. "Agent of the financial sector", on the other hand, is a highly loaded and biased phrase.

I aspire to become a "rich guy" myself -- not because I'm particularly fond of luxury goods, but because I would like to drastically expand the scope of the philanthropy work that I do.

A good ideal. I don't fault you here, presuming honesty.

The more rich guys there are, the fewer poor guys there are... A rising tide lifts all boats: it's a cliche, but true.

Absolutely false. It's a common excuse, though. Increases in technology, manufacturing efficiency, employment efficiency, and the like do help everyone. Random spending by the wealthy is just as worthless as the pseudo-Keynesian random spending by the government.

Wealth ownership is as a percentage of a whole. Being wealthy is a measure as a percentage. It is a comparison against others. When someone becomes wealthy, they are only rarely increase the size of the pie. Instead, they are re-allotting the financial resources of those who can't manage their resources well, and putting them to more efficient use. Not inherently bad, but we've permitted it to run amok. I don't personally require equality share of wealth (communism, which is inherently unfair and untenable), but it would be nice to see fairness of wealth.

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FBI Paid Informant Inside WikiLeaks 458

An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt from Wired: "On an August workday in 2011, a cherubic 18-year-old Icelandic man named Sigurdur 'Siggi' Thordarson walked through the stately doors of the U.S. embassy in Reykjavik, his jacket pocket concealing his calling card: a crumpled photocopy of an Australian passport. The passport photo showed a man with a unruly shock of platinum blonde hair and the name Julian Paul Assange. Thordarson was long time volunteer for WikiLeaks with direct access to Assange and a key position as an organizer in the group. With his cold war-style embassy walk-in, he became something else: the first known FBI informant inside WikiLeaks. For the next three months, Thordarson served two masters, working for the secret-spilling website and simultaneously spilling its secrets to the U.S. government in exchange, he says, for a total of about $5,000. The FBI flew him internationally four times for debriefings, including one trip to Washington D.C., and on the last meeting obtained from Thordarson eight hard drives packed with chat logs, video and other data from WikiLeaks."

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