"Network Engineer". (Technician.)
"Software Engineer". (Programmer.)
If they don't have an bona fide engineering degree from a legitimate university, or if they don't drive trains or maintain a ship's engines, then they already are in sales...every day they try to sell themselves as something they're not.
are you worried because Oz is pushing you off the stage? maybe if you were'nt all a pack of morbidly obese bible bashers you would still be relivent. how do you expect to rule the world when you cant even see your fucking feet becuase of the huge rolls of blubber in the way? its good that you still worship fairies and goblins on sundays coz you'll have someone to talk to when the rest of the world stops giving a rats arse about the United Fat God Botherers of America and has turned to the United States of Australia for leadership and culture instead. oooo no it's happening allready!!!! poor seppo wankers! lol.