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Republicans

Journal Journal: Is Sensenbrenner's PATRIOT Act Power Play Tom DeLay's Obit? 1

I'm too busy to research a timeline right now, but my understanding was that for DeLay to have a shot at returning to his leadership post next year, the House needed to remain out of session until his case came to trial at the very end of January. If the PATRIOT Act must now be addressed in January, I take it that the House must come back into session sometime in mid- to late January, sometime before DeLay is set to go to trial.
(10:08 PM)

UPDATE (10:21 PM):

I've had a chance to find out the date, and the Act is extended until February 3rd, so if DeLay is lucky and get a (not guilty) verdict within a couple of days he could still return to leadership.

Wine

Journal Journal: BREAKING: Bush Is Off the Wagon - and On the Horse? 7

The AP has a little personal interest story about Bush's Asian trip. It notes that Bush "drank fermented mare's milk -- sometimes likened to a mix of warm beer and buttermilk" what it doesn't seem to put together from that statement is that this is the first reputable report of Bush drinking alcohol since he says he became a teatotaller after finding Jesus.

Oddly it's not the first case of Bush being mentioned in connection with horse's milk. His wife was famously quoted at a press club gala for telling a joke involving George being so unaquainted with the life of a true cowboy, that he once tried to milk a horse - and worse - it was a male horse.

 

(c) CCPL

The Courts

Journal Journal: Has Harriet Miers been cheating on her taxes?

I was pointed to the issue by a comment on Think Progress blog entry. The commenter noted that it looks like Miers has been claiming her Dallas home as her "residence" and thus claiming what ends up to be a reduction of over $3,000 for her Real Estate tax. Since she has been working (well over) fulltime in DC since at least January 20th, 2001, it seems a pretty long commute to have her residence in Dallas still after all this time.

Of course this is exactly unusual, George H. W. Bush claimed a TX apartment as his residence for tax purposes thereby avainding DC's Income tax. Has Miers also been avoiding her DC Income Tax? Anyway, here is more info on her Real Estate exemption:

Here's a direct link to the Homestead Exemption History for Miers' Dallas residence. It certainly does look like she has been claiming the exemption each year. per the rules for the general Homestead Exemption (the only one she could be eligible for as a never-married women under age 65) I can only assume that she makes sure she flies down there every New Year's Day as that is the only day during the year she is required to "reside there" to obtain the exemption.

Here is the full text for that section of the form guidance:

     

General Residential Homestead Exemption

        To qualify, the property must be designed or adapted for human residence and the homeowner must own the property on January 1 of the year application is made. The person claiming the exemption must reside at the property on January 1 and cannot claim a homestead exemption on any other property. If more than one individual (not a married couple) owns the property, each separate individual must make application if they reside at the property. Exemptions are allocated according to percent of ownership interest the applicant has in the property. The exemption application must be completed, notarized and include a driver's license or social security number and date-of-birth.

If she has been claiming the exemption without qualifying, the main concern to me wouldn't be that she was cheating on her taxes, it would be that she was committing perjury by signing a false legal document.

The Courts

Journal Journal: Has Harriet Miers been cheating on her taxes? 1

I was pointed to the issue by a comment on Think Progress blog entry. The commenter noted that it looks like Miers has been claiming her Dallas home as her "residence" and thus claiming what ends up to be a reduction of over $3,000 for her Real Estate tax. Since she has been working (well over) fulltime in DC since at least January 20th, 2001, it seems a pretty long commute to have her residence in Dallas still after all this time.

Of course this is exactly unusual, George H. W. Bush claimed a TX apartment as his residence for tax purposes thereby avainding DC's Income tax. Has Miers also been avoiding her DC Income Tax? Anyway, here is more info on her Real Estate exemption:

Here's a direct link to the Homestead Exemption History for Miers' Dallas residence. It certainly does look like she has been claiming the exemption each year. per the rules for the general Homestead Exemption (the only one she could be eligible for as a never-married women under age 65) I can only assume that she makes sure she flies down there every New Year's Day as that is the only day during the year she is required to "reside there" to obtain the exemption.

Here is the full text for that section of the form guidance:

     

General Residential Homestead Exemption

        To qualify, the property must be designed or adapted for human residence and the homeowner must own the property on January 1 of the year application is made. The person claiming the exemption must reside at the property on January 1 and cannot claim a homestead exemption on any other property. If more than one individual (not a married couple) owns the property, each separate individual must make application if they reside at the property. Exemptions are allocated according to percent of ownership interest the applicant has in the property. The exemption application must be completed, notarized and include a driver's license or social security number and date-of-birth.

If she has been claiming the exemption without qualifying, the main concern to me wouldn't be that she was cheating on her taxes, it would be that she was committing perjury by signing a false legal document.

The Matrix

Journal Journal: Man I wish this was joke - IN to outlaw IVF for Single Women 7

this has been bouncing around the blogosphere today and after tracking it back to DailyKos I found a link to the actual legislation [214Kb PDF] - which seems to not yet have been laughed out of committee. Aparently there is an epidemic of unmarried women seeking to get pregnant in Indiana and GOP instends to ensure that if any babies are going to made out of wedlock in the state it's going be done the old fashioned way whether or not that is how the woman wants to conceive (Mike Tyson could not be reached for comment). I'm assuming the main motivation is to prevent Lesbians from becoming parents - but also have to remember that Dan Quayle was from Indiana and he had a lot of problems with sitcom character Murphy Brown's out of wedlock motherhood.

Another angle that I haven't seen brought up yet regarding the legislation, is that married couples seeking to get donor sperm/egg/embryos must be evaluated for their suitability as if they were adopted parents - something which to some extent makes sense but which also includes providing information on their fertility history and "pregnancy history and response to pregnancy losses of the woman" which I interpret as meaning they want to know if you've ever had an abortion.

Indiana - keeping the lock in wedlock since 1916!

UPDATE: 10/7
The legislatrix that proposed the bill has decided to shelve the idea at least until January because "the issue has become more complex than anticipated."

The Media

Journal Journal: Walter Pincus on Anonymous Sources 7

PDF version is available here

Anonymous Sources: Their Use in a Time of Prosecutorial Interest
How are decisions made about publishing information from confidential sources?

By Walter Pincus

The traditional government concern
about leaks of information
has taken a new turn. Journalists,
including me, have been put in the
middle of highly publicized criminal
investigations and civil cases based on
leaks. On July 12, 2003, an administration
official, who was talking to me
confidentially about a matter involving
alleged Iraqi nuclear activities, veered
off the precise matter we were discuss-
ing and told me that the White House
had not paid attention to former Ambassador
Joseph Wilson's CIA-sponsored
February 2002 trip to Niger because it
was set up as a boondoggle by his wife,
an analyst with the agency working on
weapons of mass destruction.
I didn't write about that information
at that time because I did not believe it
true that she had arranged his Niger trip.
But I did disclose it in an October 12,
2003 story in The Washington Post. By
that time there was a Justice Department
criminal investigation into a leak to columnist
Robert Novak who published it
on July 14, 2003 and identified Wilson's
wife, Valerie Plame, as a CIA operative.
Under certain circumstances a government
official's disclosure of her name
could be a violation of federal law. The
call with me had taken place two days
before Novak's column appeared.
I wrote my October story because I
did not think the person who spoke to
me was committing a criminal act, but
only practicing damage control by trying
to get me to stop writing about Wilson.
Because of that article, The Washington
Post and I received subpoenas last
summer from Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the
special prosecutor looking into the
Plame leak. Fitzgerald wanted to find
out the identity of my source.
I refused. My position was that until
my source came forward publicly or to
the prosecutor, I would not
discuss the matter. It turned
out that my source, whom I
still cannot identify publicly,
had in fact disclosed to the
prosecutor that he was my
source, and he talked to the
prosecutor about our conversation.
(In writing this
story, I am using the masculine
pronoun simply for
convenience). My attorney
discussed the matter with his
attorney, and we confirmed that he had
no problem with my testifying about
our conversation.
When my deposition finally took
place in my lawyer's office last September,
Fitzgerald asked me about the
substance of my conversation about
Wilson's wife, the gist of which I had
reported in the newspaper. But he
did not ask me to confirm my source's
identity, which was my condition for
being deposed. My original understanding
with my source still holds--to
withhold his identity until he makes it
public, if ever.
Confidential Sources
Protecting confidential sources, who
provide me with material for many of the
intelligence stories I write, is a key factor
that enables me to write the stories I do
about national security. Sometimes I am
given or sent a document that is classi-
fied, or sources--either on their own or
through answering questions--provide
information that is classified.
How do I decide when to publish
such information provided by a confi-
dential source?
Protecting confidential sources, who
provide me with material for many
of the intelligence stories I write,
is a key factor that enables me to
write the stories I do about national
security.
There are at least three issues involved,
and they include:
1. Determining whether the information
is credible and verifiable.
The most important issue involves my
analysis of why the source provided
the information in the first place
and, of course, verifying its accuracy.
Many times during the past 40 years,
a source wanting confidentiality has
provided information and sometimes
even documents that have proven to
be untrue or taken out of context.
Information that is to be attributed
to anonymous sources has to be
checked more closely than any other
type of material.
2. Determining whether the material
is newsworthy. Just because it appears
to be a secret and the source
wants anonymity doesn't mean it is
worth printing.
3. Determining whether in the case
of classified information it truly
harms national security. And based
on that analysis, there have been
times at The Washington Post when
we have decided not to publish such
information.
When we do publish stories based
on leaks, we risk getting subpoenaed.
If that occurs, a reporter might have to
confront questions about the nature
of the reporter's privilege. It is called a
reporter's privilege, but once I publish
information from a confidential source
who has risked firing or even jail to
give me the information, I believe the
privilege of keeping his or her name
secret belongs both to the source and
to me. That source, after getting a confi-
dentiality pledge from me, can disclose
that same information within hours to
another reporter for attribution. The
source could also go to a prosecutor
in private, disclose that he or she has
talked to me and provide the substance
of the conversation. I could hardly claim
the privilege to that same prosecutor, if
I am directly assured that the source is
releasing me from my pledge.
In states in which shield laws apply,
reporters may not have to face questions
about revealing sources, and sources
may be protected. This includes
even those who pass along
wrong or inaccurate information,
and I am concerned about
that possibility--which exists in
other privileges recognized by
law to serve the public interest.
Shield laws do prevent lawyers
from freely subpoenaing reporters
to do their investigative
work for them. And such laws
certainly prevent harassment
of journalists.
But no matter what legal protections
exist, journalists should pause before
handling information received from
people who demand anonymity. Reporters
should avoid promising anonymity
to sources if it is being offered simply to
encourage the source to say something
in a dramatic or damaging way that the
source would not say on the record.
This use of anonymity harms the profession
and diminishes the value of the
confidentiality given to those who are
whistleblowers--people who risk their
jobs and jail for what they may believe
is a higher cause.

Walter Pincus reports on national security
issues for The Washington Post.
pincusw@washpost.com

The Courts

Journal Journal: UPDATEDx2 Roberts NOT a Federalist Society Member 1

Roberts NOT a Federalist Society Member
I heard this on C-SPAN this morning but so far the rest of the media hasn't seemed to get around to actually correcting themselve. The Seattle Times has the story.

Does this change my views on Roberts - I don't know whether it shows that he isn't the ideologue some fear (and that others desire), but it may also be sign that he really is the perfect stealth nominee and has been EXTREMELY careful to never do anything that might hurt his chances at getting confirmed. The latter seems in the realm of tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory, but given the administration's record I won't write-off the possibility just yet.


7-22-05 1am: a prior report that Roberts was involved in Iran-Contra has now also been retracted - it was different John Roberts that served in the Reagan Administration.

Music

Journal Journal: FREE We're About 9 Show - Wed. 6/29 in Columbia, MD

I'm looking forward to We're About 9's Columbia Lakefront show Wednesday. Anyone within the greater DC, Baltimore, or Frederick area should think about attending this show - it's a wonderful 'natural' ampitheatre with the lake in the background. There are lots of great options to pickup food at one of the neighboring restaurants along the lakefront or at the nearby Columbia Mall foodcourt then bring it to the venue for a picnic (bring blankets or lawnchairs). Parking is free in the adjacent garage.

Quake

Journal Journal: 7.4 Quake of N.California-Tsunami Warning in Effect

TSUNAMI WARNING FROM NOAA

WEPA41 PAAQ 150256
TSUWCA

TO - TSUNAMI WARNING SYSTEM PARTICIPANTS IN
                    ALASKA/BRITISH COLUMBIA/WASHINGTON/OREGON/CALIFORNIA
FROM - WEST COAST AND ALASKA TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER/NOAA/NWS
SUBJECT - TSUNAMI WARNING BULLETIN - INITIAL
BULLETIN NUMBER 1
ISSUED 06/15/2005 AT 0256 UTC ...A TSUNAMI WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE COASTAL AREAS
      FROM THE CALIFORNIA-MEXICO BORDER TO THE NORTH TIP OF
      VANCOUVER I.-BC. INCLUSIVE... ...A TSUNAMI WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR THE COASTAL AREAS FROM
      THE NORTH TIP OF VANCOUVER I.-BC. TO SITKA-AK... ...AT THIS TIME THIS BULLETIN IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY FOR
      OTHER AREAS OF ALASKA...

EARTHQUAKE DATA
  PRELIMINARY MAGNITUDE - 7.4
  LOCATION - 41.3N 125.7W - 90 MILES NW OF EUREKA-CA.
                                                          300 MILES NW OF SAN FRANCISCO-CA.
  TIME - 1851 ADT 06/14/2005
                        1951 PDT 06/14/2005
                        0251 UTC 06/15/2005

EVALUATION
  IT IS NOT KNOWN - REPEAT NOT KNOWN - IF A TSUNAMI EXISTS BUT A
  TSUNAMI MAY HAVE BEEN GENERATED. THEREFORE PERSONS IN LOW
  LYING COASTAL AREAS SHOULD BE ALERT TO INSTRUCTIONS FROM THEIR
  LOCAL EMERGENCY OFFICIALS. PERSONS ON THE BEACH SHOULD MOVE TO
  HIGHER GROUND IF IN A WARNED AREA. TSUNAMIS MAY BE A SERIES OF
  WAVES WHICH COULD BE DANGEROUS FOR SEVERAL HOURS AFTER THE
  INITIAL WAVE ARRIVAL.

$$
PZZ130-131-133-134-132-135-150-153-156-110-250-210-255-350-
353-356-450-455-550-530-535-555-670-673-650-655-750-WAZ001-
002-005-006-007-008-009-010-011-013-014-015-016-021-ORZ001-
002-021-022-CAZ001-002-005-007-006-075-074-009-034-035-039-
040-046-041-042-043-150456-
COASTAL AREAS FROM THE CALIFORNIA-MEXICO BORDER TO THE
NORTH TIP OF VANCOUVER I.-BC. INCLUSIVE. ...A TSUNAMI WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE COASTAL AREAS
      FROM THE CALIFORNIA-MEXICO BORDER TO THE NORTH TIP OF
      VANCOUVER I.-BC. INCLUSIVE...

ESTIMATED TIMES OF INITIAL WAVE ARRIVAL
CRESCENT CITY-CA 2029 PDT JUN 14 ASTORIA-OR 2154 PDT JUN 14
CHARLESTON-OR 2044 PDT JUN 14 TOFINO-BC 2157 PDT JUN 14
SAN FRANCISCO-CA 2123 PDT JUN 14 SAN PEDRO-CA 2200 PDT JUN 14
SEASIDE-OR 2126 PDT JUN 14 LA JOLLA-CA 2214 PDT JUN 14
NEAH BAY-WA 2148 PDT JUN 14
$$
PKZ032-031-042-034-033-035-041-036-AKZ023-024-025-026-028-
029-027-150456-
COASTAL AREAS FROM THE NORTH TIP OF VANCOUVER I.-BC. TO
SITKA-AK. ...A TSUNAMI WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR THE COASTAL AREAS FROM
      THE NORTH TIP OF VANCOUVER I.-BC. TO SITKA-AK...

ESTIMATED TIMES OF INITIAL WAVE ARRIVAL
LANGARA-BC 2244 PDT JUN 14 KETCHIKAN-AK 2257 ADT JUN 14
SITKA-AK 2227 ADT JUN 14
$$
PKZ176-175-172-170-171-155-150-132-136-138-137-130-141-140-
120-121-129-127-125-126-128-052-051-053-022-012-043-013-
011-021-AKZ191-185-181-171-145-111-101-121-125-131-135-017-
020-018-019-021-022-150456-
COASTAL AREAS FROM SITKA-AK. TO ATTU-AK. ...TSUNAMI INFORMATION STATEMENT...

NO - REPEAT NO - TSUNAMI WATCH OR WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR
      THE COASTAL AREAS FROM SITKA-AK. TO ATTU-AK.

FOR INFORMATION ONLY - ESTIMATED TIMES OF INITIAL WAVE ARRIVAL
YAKUTAT-AK 2317 ADT JUN 14 CORDOVA-AK 0007 ADT JUN 15
KODIAK-AK 2332 ADT JUN 14 DUTCH HARBOR-AK 0013 ADT JUN 15
JUNEAU-AK 2334 ADT JUN 14 COLD BAY-AK 0034 ADT JUN 15
SEWARD-AK 2339 ADT JUN 14 ADAK-AK 0038 ADT JUN 15
VALDEZ-AK 2357 ADT JUN 14 HOMER-AK 0044 ADT JUN 15
SAND PT.-AK 2358 ADT JUN 14 SHEMYA-AK 0119 ADT JUN 15
$$

THE PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER AT EWA BEACH HAWAII WILL
ISSUE BULLETINS FOR OTHER AREAS OF THE PACIFIC.

BULLETINS WILL BE ISSUED HOURLY OR SOONER IF CONDITIONS
WARRANT. THE TSUNAMI WATCH/WARNING WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT
UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. REFER TO THE INTERNET SITE
WCATWC.ARH.NOAA.GOV FOR MORE INFORMATION AND ETA SITES.

Republicans

Journal Journal: Did Sen. Brownback (R-KS) Violate Senate Rules? 5

Anyone else catch Brownback's speech on Bolton last night where he disclosed what I believe to be previously undisclosed information from a classified NSA Intercept?

Regarding the 19 intercepts that Bolton requested the info on the US citizen's whose information had been "minimized" Brownback - who I believe is one of only two Senators who have been cleared to even see the memos - said that the memo that Bolton showed to another individual without getting proper clearance was in fact shown to an employee that reported to Bolton and that the employee was the US citizen mentioned in the memo.

This seems to be much more of a violation of the rule the rightwing of blogosphere were accusing Reid of breaking just two weeks ago re: Judge Saad's FBI file.

Communications

Journal Journal: Lost Cell Phone - Is it the Newest Meme? 4

It seems like there is a rash of lost phones in zoo.pl well my wife actually lost hers a week ago. We were hoping that some good samaritan would find the phone, look up HOME in the directory and dial it. Well, someone did find it but we have once again been forced to accept that humanity is a lost cause when it comes to shiny trinkets (we had a phone stolen from our car a couple of months back - which after speaking to people the thief had called - was never returned. Similiarly, we called the people called by whoever found our phone this time with no return of the phone. Fortunatley there were no long distance calls.)

We got an essentially free phone after the one was stolen - I we paid $30, so now we are forced with paying full price for a phone. If anyone has a cheap phone compatible with T-Mobile please email cyberguide {at} gmail . c0m

Thanx

Happy Update!
The finder of the phone contacted us this weekend and arranged to return it. It was a little long in coming, so now we have two used back-up phones off Craigslist, but the batteries are at least compatible with our original phone.

User Journal

Journal Journal: Bolton Lackey Rigged Elections for Marcos in the Phillipines 4

The story or Matthew Freedman may finally be the shovel of dirt that buries the Bolton nomination. While others have noted the general sleaziness of having a lobbyist who admits he's not the most qualified candidate for the job working as a part-time $100k/year consultant for a federal agency, I'm most intrigued by one specific part of Freedman's resume:

"Republican election specialist Eddie Mahe was retained by the USG to analyze and defeat the Marcos election-rigging schemes.

"Meanwhile, Matt was among those helping the Marcos family to carry out such schemes.

Is anyone else intrigued by the fact that John Bolton, who was one of Bush's main tacticians in the FL recount battle, has been paying an underqualified consultant $100k/yr since then who had previous experience rigging elections for Marcos in the Phillipines?

Democrats

Journal Journal: Baptist Church in NC Excommunicates Democrat members 21

I wish I was making this up. Not being picked up by the major media yet, but it was covered by a local TV station (humorously - a Sinclair owned affiliate). I am re-posting the full text of the story they have on it since it is short, and there is no permanent link for it.

Religion and Politics Clash
Religion and politics clash over a local church's declaration that Democrats are not welcome.

East Waynesville Baptist asked nine members to leave. Now 40 more have left the church in protest. Former members say Pastor Chan Chandler gave them the ultimatum, saying if they didn't support George Bush, they should resign or repent. The minister declined an interview with News 13. But he did say "the actions were not politically motivated." There are questions about whether the bi-laws were followed when the members were thrown out.

(posted at 7:30am, 5/6/05)

Naturally the Left of the Blogosphere is in total uproar over this. But it seems to me that regardless of your politics you should be up in arms about a political test for religion just as you should about a religious test for politics.

UPDATE: 3:30 PM

Unfortunately it seems like journalists other than bloggers are giving this a pass so far. Which I think is quite shameful. But at least it has been now picked up by the AP State newswire in NC:

Minister ex-communicates members for not backing Bush

UPDATE 10:30 PM 5-7-05
Well the MSM has at least covered the story and the latest news is that the members that were kicked are considering suing. Via Google News I found an interesting take on the story from the "Biblical Recorder" a newspaper that has been covering the Baptist Church in NC since 1833. Here is that article in its entirety:

Church removes members for political views, deacon says
By Steve DeVane
Managing Editor

A Baptist deacon says he and eight other members of East Waynesville Baptist Church were removed from the church roll because they disagreed with the pastor's political views.

Frank Lowe said he had been a member of the church for 43 years. He said the pastor, Chan Chandler, said he wanted the church to be a politically active church, and that anyone who disagrees with his views should leave.

Chandler could not be reached for comment.

WLOS-TV in nearby Asheville reported that Chandler declined an interview but said, "the actions were not politically motivated."

The controversy at the church reached a high point the Monday night, May 2, when the pastor invited all church members to a deacons' meeting. Lowe said at the beginning of the meeting, the pastor said anyone who didn't agree with his political views should leave.

Lowe said he, his wife, Thelma and seven others left. The pastor then called the church into conference and congregation voted to terminate the membership of those who left, Lowe said.

Among those dismissed were three deacons, he said.

Church member Janet Webb who was at the meeting declined to say what happened during the meeting, but said that Chandler is "a man of God who only preaches against sin and to win people to Jesus Christ."

Church member Bill Rash, who has been attending the church for about 29 years, said he stayed through the meeting, but has since resigned from his positions and decided to leave the church. He said another church member initially asked if all church members could come to the altar, pray together, forgive each other and get on with the Lord's business.

Chandler responded by saying if those who disagreed would repent, then they could get on with the Lord's work, Rash said. The pastor said if they weren't going to repent they should leave, Rash said.

That's when Lowe and the others left.

After they left, the remaining members voted to take their names off the roll, Rash said everyone voted for the measure except he and his wife, who didn't vote.

The remaining members decided that if another church wrote for the letters of those who left, East Waynesville would reply saying they had left in bad standing. Members also discussed changing the church bylaws to state that all members had to sign a statement saying they supported the pastor's political views, Rash said.

During the last presidential election, the pastor said that anyone who was supporting John Kerry should repent or resign from the church, Rash and Lowe said. The pastor offered to hold the door for them to leave, Lowe said.

Lowe said he usually votes Democratic while his wife votes Republican.

The pastor "says my political views support abortion and homosexuality, therefore that would be enough to turn me out of the church," Lowe said. "I am not - positively not - for either one."

If indeed Chandler's pulpit statement was made before the November election and did not indicate he was speaking only for himself, it would be a "pretty clear" violation of Internal Revenue Service rules against political endorsements by churches, said Brent Walker, executive director of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty (BJC). That could lead the IRS to revoke East Waynesville Baptist Church's tax-exempt status.

Some members of Congress have been trying to do away with that restriction, led by Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.). He has introduced a version of the Houses of Worship Free Speech Restoration Act in every session of Congress since 2001. Although the bill has not passed, it continues to receive strong support from many conservative Christian groups.

However, many groups that support the separation of church and state have strongly opposed the bill, including the BJC.

Lowe said he and his wife have been invited to other churches since the meeting. He expects they'll start attending somewhere else, but wouldn't rule out an effort to "retake" the church.

Another church member, Selma Morris, said she believes the vote to remove the members isn't valid because the church bylaws weren't followed.

The bylaws say a called meeting should be announced on Sunday morning. The meeting Monday was announced at the Sunday evening service, she said.

The bylaws also say a called meeting should be held two weeks after the announcement, according to Morris. The meeting was held the next night.

Morris said she wasn't at the meeting, but would have walked out with the others if she had been there.

"I can't support that," she said.

UPDATE: 12:00 5/9/05
At services Sunday morning, the good Reverend tried to call 'no harm, no foul' and welcome back the members that had been taken off the roll, but not all are coming back enthusiastically.

FINAL UPDATE / CONCLUSION? 9:30 AM 5/11/05:
Pastor Accused of Running Out Dems Quits!

Star Wars Prequels

Journal Journal: Comment to the Revenge of the Sith Thread

I just posted this to a day-old thread on the front page but it seems like it should be of interest - so reposting here I'm for my 'fans' & 'friends':

Many 1st Hand Reviews From [lucky] Screeners Here

Most include some spoilers.

I'm glad Lucas isn't letting the ratings system control the content of his films, but I hope that I will eventually have a technological way of watching the films in a G-rated version so I can enjoy it with my kids.

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